all the "best" mic pres in one rack unit!

[area510studios]

ah made you look.or is there such thing?
all this talk about which mic pres are better or best or different.somebody should either make a preamp modeler or actually get the companies to collaberate on a platter of mic pres in one rack unit or a box.)(mainly to gain customers.)then we could compare them all and decide which are best for what.
hey if this does exist let me know.

[crawdad]

Roland actually has a new box that is a mic pre that supposedly has models of high end pres in it. I can't remember the name of the thing. I'll have to look. I have not heard, used or even seen one yet. if I can find details, I'll post what I find.

[crawdad]

Check this out.

http://www.rolandus.com/products/det...prodid=MMP%2D2

There are supposed to be plug in models of high end pres, like Neve and Focusrite for this thing, though I am not sure if this goes into those details.

[gordone]

I crack up when I read the description of that thing. How could it possibly work? I'm suprised that the manufacturers of some of those preamps (i.e. Cranesong) haven't blocked Roland from marketing this the way they have.
I think I'll stick with my Great River MP2!

[darrin_h2000]

After 13 years the patents lose thier power to eliminate the competition from using designs and certain trademarks are curtailed by not using the exact wording, Have you ever seen a POD unit. Good example there.

[TexRoadkill]

The idea of a modelling pre amp is pretty silly. You would need a $2000 ultra clean pre as a front end before you slightly colored it to sound like a different pre. I highly doubt they can use a "toob" quality preamp and make it sound like a bunch of high end stuff.

BTW You shouldnt notice a good pre, only a crappy one.

[darrin_h2000]

Certainly top quality transformers and componants are required to get it into the digital domain but once you are there the cost of the componants does go down. So this can be built for 400.00 and built well.

My problem with your Philosophy is that you think that a pre should sound like a wire with gain, and if that were the case why would any body go to the trouble to buy more than one pre, or why would Neve' be so great. Hell I bought a transparent pre for 26.00 recently. It gets limitted use but I love my tube hybrid alot better.

[Lopp]

Originally posted by darrin_h2000
[B]After 13 years the patents lose thier power to eliminate the competition from using designs

Close. For a utility patent, 17 years from issuance for older ones, 20 years from filing for newer ones.

[TexRoadkill]

Darrin- What transparent high quality pre costs $26?

[JuSumPilgrim]

I havent heard the roland but I dont know why the idea of a modeling pre is silly considering the very effective amp modelers out now. Consider the POD and j station which do a 95% job for heavy guitar situations and maybe 80% for clean tones after much tweaking (which are more dynamic and nuanced and harder to replicate) I would assume a modeling pre could get to 80%. Consider that there are many software EQs and tape simulations which are very decent, consider that a pre's sound has alot to do with its native EQ and sense of space, consider that some cheap pres get to maybe 75-80% of the classic pres--the roland pre is not so far fetched.

[TexRoadkill]

Based on my experience with Rolands mic modellers I wont hold my breath. I could be wrong and they could be awesome.

[crawdad]

Based on the way these Roland pre/modelers are being snatched up (by nopbody apparently) maybe they'll be the next GC blowout. I haven't even read a review anywhere. Seems odd somehow to me. Obviously, none of us has used or even heard one. You'd think if these were a hot and desirable item, everybody at homerecording would be falling over themselves to snag one to use with their new B1/V67/C1/ECM 8000, etc.