My letter to Roland about my jogwheel software fix. - Did it end up in the trash?

[Boray]

I have a solution for a software upgrade to fix the jogwheel problem on all VS models. I sent a letter to Roland about it but it seems they don't care... Read about and discuss it in the following thread (in the VS1680 forum at VSPlanet):
http://www.vsplanet.com/ubb/ultimate...c&f=1&t=009130

/Anders
http://listen.to/boray

[Lopp]

Ingenious proposed fix. Best of luck getting it implemented.

[Mr Martin]

Did Roland ever reply? They probably didn't, but I'm just curious.
I have a VS-880VX. I use the numerics whenever I can. Other than the ridiculous manual and below average customer support, I love my VS880 and other Roland products.

[MartyMcFly]

You know what I like to do about that problem???
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I deal with it!!

[monty]

When my VS880EX was relatively new, I noticed the wheel started to feel strange, so I took the unit apart to see what was inside. I was surprised to see such a puny, flimsy arrangement, and from then on I’ve turned my wheel slow and easy. If I had designed it, the wheel arrangement would be a hell of a lot beefier than it is. Shame on Roland.

[Lopp]

Hmm. I bought my VS EXpanded 880 brand new when they still had the 540M HD in it and still haven't had the problem. What are you guys doing with/to your shuttle wheels?

[monty]

Turning them fast and hard, until they start to fail. A weak point in the design which they should have foreseen.

[Boray]

monty, it's not the encoder that's resposible for this problem. The encoder is working well within it's parameters even when the problem is there. It's Roland's way of using the encoder part that't the fault. They are not allowing the contact bounces from the encoder according to the parts specifications. This leads to that the only encoders that work is new ones (or perfect ones that hasn't been used much)... There is a guy (BB Einstein) on VSPlanet that has a hardware fix for the VS1680 for this problem. It removes the contact bounces in hardware. My fix would do it with software...

/Anders

[monty]

I'm talking about the mechanical design of the structure. It's weak and flimsy. You can talk about your solution to your problem, and please allow me to complain about what I see as poor mechanical design of a component that has to withstand possible abuse by heavy-handed operators.

[Roel]

It's what we call a hardware problem with software work around.

'We' do chipdesign, but I guess it applies here also...

[Boray]

Originally posted by monty
I'm talking about the mechanical design of the structure. It's weak and flimsy. You can talk about your solution to your problem, and please allow me to complain about what I see as poor mechanical design of a component that has to withstand possible abuse by heavy-handed operators.

You are welcome to do that, but it's still nothing wrong with most encoders on VSs that has this problem...

/Anders

[monty]

Gee thanks. That's mighty big of you.

[Boray]

Originally posted by monty
Gee thanks. That's mighty big of you.

You are welcome!

/Anders

[monty]

Gee thanks, that’s doubly mighty big of you.

[Boray]

Originally posted by monty
Gee thanks, that’s doubly mighty big of you.

What's your problem? If you are trying to be funny, you have to try harder...

/Anders

[Boray]

Originally posted by monty
Screw you.

What a big offer! Well, I don't know if I want to screw you so I have to think about that one. I presume you are a girl, right? Seriously! It was a long time since I saw such a childish behaviour on a BBS...

/Anders

[monty]

Wow, what a liar. I would never, ever, ever say anything like that.

[MegaBooger]

Pardon Monty. He's prone to childishness that sometimes detracts from meaningful discussions.

Thanks for your insights into the VS encoders, Boray. Most of the good stuff is usually kept on the VSPlanet.

[Boray]

Originally posted by monty
Wow, what a liar. I would never, ever, ever say anything like that.

What? Deleting posts now? What a coward!

I sure can't stay here...

/Anders

[monty]

...bye.

[*BG]

Monty:
Apparently your mother never mentioned the fact that you're missing at least one chromosome. Boray had a suggestion - you would rather be Monty the Moron. Since I'm new to these posts but have a recording career that would easily put you to shame - tell me what you've done musically, if you can.