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Old 01-28-2002
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Completly recorded on my 788. I do seem to lose a lot of the sound quality from my transfer from cd to mp3. Anyone know how to transfer songs in a better way?
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Because you've got a lot going on in your mixes it's important that you make a different mix for an mp3 than the one you'd make at 16bit.

Overall, your volume is good but it lacks some clarity. What's happening is that in mp3 compression it looks for what it thinks you can't hear and throws it out. In your songs it's having trouble finding easy things to get rid of so tonal quality suffers more than normal than say a solo guitar or piano. One thing that helps is to use a high and low shelf filter on the stereo mix and remove everything below 60hz and above 15khz and thereby have less to process. What remains will sound better. Also keep your peaks to 95% of 0 before converting to mp3 to avoid clipping.

Keep up the good work.
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"use a high and low shelf filter on the stereo mix and remove everything below 60hz and above 15khz"

John, I know you've gone over this with me before....but please explain again. How does one "use a high and low shelf filter on the stereo mix and remove everything below 60hz and above 15khz"

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I'm not one to crtique your mix too much. I'm just about the worst when it comes to engineering. Maybe it is the MP3 conversion,(in fact I'll bet IT IS the mp3 conversion,) but there is something wrong with the way these songs come across on mp3.com. On "Thought About" and "Everchanging History," the distorted guitar just doesn't sound right to me. It sounds real chorus-y flange-y and 80's glam-rock instead of guteral and heavy like the style of your vocals that lead the song. Both of those songs, though (in my opinion), have fairly catchy lines and hooks, especially considering the heavy style. Some bands these days like Puddle of Mud are doing fake Nirvana stuff- perfectly produced, heavy guitars with pretty melodies and passing it off as hard rock. But the style of your vocals reminds me more of Disturbed, but they have very little in the way of melody. So any way, it's a pretty good combination what you're doing stylistically-- the deep heavy vocals and the choppy guitar lines WITH a sense of melody in there. I think the first tune was called "Rootless tree" (???)...I didn't hear a melody or hhok in there that caught me.

...only listened to the first 3.

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THANKS FOR THE FEEDBACK EVERYONE, If you could explain how that process is done a little more would be excellent philboyd. I also agree on the guitar sound. The guitar on my cd sounds crunchy and thick and the guitar on my mp3 sounds like someone is spraying an aerosol can in the backround.
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Though you can roll things off on the 788, I use Sound Forge 5.0 on the computer for final mixing/mastering of the stereo file. For an mp3 you'd take the paragraphinc EQ funtion and assign the selfs where I said before (60hz and 15khz). Mp3 playback doesn't go beyond those limits so there's no point trying to process it. Still it's a roll off and not a cut so your not really eliminating everything, it's just giving the conversion software less to process which is a good thing.

Most of the time I forgot to do this when I submitted songs to mp.3.com but a kids satire called 'Reading Harry Potter' I know I did and you can tell a difference from the other tracks. I don't have the address but just type in John Malcolm Penn to mp3.com's search function and you'll get there.
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Thanks Philboyd,
I am gonna get soundforge and try re-doing the songs that way. I am just using musicmatch to transfer from at the moment.
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Hey A.O.M.,

Like your other tunes I've listened to, I like the vibe. The songs are nice and dark. I like the heaviness also. That part at 2:30 in "The Rootless Tree" was a highlight for me.

I think you should maybe consider a new guitar pre and maybe some monitors because the songs would have much more impact if they sounded better. It's hard to listen to because the recording needs help. Where are the drums on "Everchanging history?" and that guitar sound sounds like there is no cabinet emulation at all, quite harsh.

Overall, the songs are cool and would be even better if they sounded better. Keep it up Bro!, and most important, keep it dark.





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Thanks samicide

I am glad you like the tunes. I am working to get my guitar sounding a bit crunchier and my drums a bit more present. My weekest link is in my recording and my drum playing. But I shall overcome. LOL Anyway thanks for listeniing and your input. ROCK ON ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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