sample cds???drums, hihats etc???

[PRiZ-one]

I have a hard time finding good breaks.
who has ordered a smaple cd before? are they worth the money?
Which poeple are the best for quality and value?
I keep thinking about this, but one side of me thinks the beats will all sound unoriginal and generic, the other side thinks it will help. I really need some good drums that knock hard including hihats etc to chop and crete mny own rythems.

Tell me anything you can aswell as experiecne with differerent product names. Thanks! PEACE!

[tdukex]

Sonic Foundry "Drum Tools" is supposed to be a very good loop-based CD if you have ACID. BTW, Guitar Center is closing out ACID Pro 2 for $49. This is a fabulous price for software that normally goes for $249. I've used ACID for a couple of years and love it. I got the Drumtools CD for Christmas but have yet to use it. I bought it because of the numerous great reviews it has received in magazines and recommendations I have read on this BBS. The CD can be bought for $39 at GC.

I'd snatch up ACID Pro and Drumtools if I were you.

[jdechant]

If you are looking for a CD that contains samples taken from drum sets, check out http://www.drums.sk

each part of the kits are multi-sampled... contains 6 high class pro recorded kits too...

[PRiZ-one]

i should've checked back at this thread while it was fresh, but anyway...

what do you mean multisampled, and what if I just want quality, not necessarily "pro" but just loud/cleaness that just sound nice as hell? how much to prices range on tehse sample cds.

I have acid actually, I like it alot, but I think it would feel like using the sounds that come with a program, it just seems too wack.

Thanks!!!

[struberg]

multisampled means that for example a piano is recorded at say 8 different notes instead one sample pitched over the whole note range.

There is another term, and this one comes to work if you talk about drum samples: multilayered means that the same note - say a bd kick - has been recorded with say 4 different velocities and are layered with only one of them sounding depending on the velocity you play per midi. Thats what the sampler parameters VelocityLow and VelocityHi are for.

But i dont think you can use this in Acid, do you???

[jdechant]

When I said "pro" thats what I meant.... samples recorded at high quality in a studio environment that clean and crisp and sound nice...

when I said multi-sampled I meant that for each piece of the kit, there are multiple hits for each piece... for example, maybe 8 hits of the same snare, 8 of the same kick, etc..etc.. for each kit...

to get a "real" drummer sound using a drum machine, one of the big things is different hits for each part... when a real drummer plays, it doesn't sound exactly the same each time he hits the snare, etc...

thats what I meant

[PRiZ-one]

I'm doing hiphop so I don't need multilayers, we like the repetitiveness I should look for soemthing that doesn't have multilayers than so I don't pay for what I don't need right?

[struberg]

There is only two realy important things

1.) listen to the sounds first

2.) only get samples in the right format (Akai, Emu, Yamaha, Kurzweil,...). DONT buy a wav sample cd without keymaps if u have a real sampler or a good sw-sampler who can import akai,.. because u will get enerved within 2 hours while picking all your sounds together and creating tons of keymaps
especially if u like to use multilayered samples (which is quite a cooooool feature)

nastarowje,
mark

[PRiZ-one]

Struberg! I don't have a sampler, I'm fully computer at the momento so wav is what I work in on the regular.
Why would I not wnat wav, don't get it????

[struberg]

I really need some good drums that knock hard including hihats etc to chop and crete mny own rythems.

Thats why i mentioned the software sampler! Acid and that stuff is mainly for loops and not 4 replacing a real instrument like a drum.
You will get single hits in wav format and maybe you'll drag&drop all the different waves to the right position, but i ment it would be more comfortable to trigger a (software) sampler.

The multiple layers are because say a snare drum sounds completely different if the hit was hard or soft. Velicity doesn't only affect the volume of a sound - it affects the sound itself (and thats why almost all good sample cd's uses multi layered samples)

I don't think there is a way in Acid to do this, isnt it?

[PRiZ-one]

pkay you got me there, it's true the differnt loudnesses and tonal variations of every hit varieds and it would increse odds of getting that perfect snare etc.

I like to chop my stuff myself or get individual hi hats and drums, I don't really like acid to much. I'd rather just have a bunch of wav files and that's it. I can use those ina acid anyways.

This board is good, i forgot how much I like it. havn't been checkin it lately.

[struberg]

i think u can also program midi with acid, isnt it?

[Rev E]

Check out Hip Hop RnB 2 at Big Fish Audio. I have this one and it is pretty good. The loops are good, plus you get the individual samples to play your own beats (if you have a sampler or sample player). Here's the link: http://www.bigfishaudio.com/cgi/Soft...066+1011755493

The price is $49.95 and Big Fish's service is great and fast. Check it out.

E

[barefoot]

Just use Acid. Especially if you have Acid Pro. With the Copper you can easily edit your samples.

Instead of multiple takes of the same drum, I'd like to have multiple tracks of the same beats - i.e. various breaks recorded with several mics. So I can bring in the kick and drop out the snare, that sort of thing. Anybody know of a sample cd like this?

barefoot

[sibleypeck]

Barefoot, I saw your reply to a post on another thread (from last year) and since I am new to this site and don't know how to navigate it properly, I had to contact you on this thread. Sorry for the whiplash.
I am learning to use Cakewalk Pro Audio and have set up a project studio at minimal expense. In fact, the only thing I have purchased is an EV RE20 and some adapters.
My first project is coming along great (after only 490 hours).
I recently installed and used a CD burner, so I could see what my mix sounded like in the car. It sounds awful! No low-mids, no lows. And the midi tracks' level is significantly lower than the audio's.
I attribute these deficiencies to the use of portable CD headphones in mixing (run straight out of the SB Live card).
I don't have room enough for mixing monitors, so I have no choice but to use headphones. I'm looking at AKG240DF, AT ATHM40, and Beyer DT770 pro and DT990 pro models.
Do you have any experience with these models? and, what advice can you give someone who, for now, has no choice but to use headphones for a final mix? You may contact me at sibleypeck@hotmail.com.