BEHRINGER Ulta voice pro

[detuned6]

Ultra voice pro- 1 ch mic pre, tube emulation, eq,compression,de-sser,expander-$129
Anybody have one of these?? any good??

[ColdAsh]

I think you should make it a rule that behringer = crap. maybe that have a good product out there somewhere but i dont know of it. the reason its only 129 is because thats all its worth (probably less). Try an ART MP (around $200) more expensive than the behringer and less features but i doubt you could even compare the sound. Ofcourse if you've tried it and you like it then go for it.

[Shazukura]

I only found these forums recently, but from what I've seen so far, Behringer seems to be the most despised producer of audio equipment in these parts (by leaps and bounds, even.) I'm simply wondering -- of all the people that post "Behinger Sucks" messages, how many have actually used a Behinger product for any reasonable amount of time?

I'm not insinuating that they don't deserve a bad reputation, but I'm curious how much of it is deserved. Of countless "Behinger Sucks" posts I've read, I think I've only seen 2 or 3 persons relate a bad personal experience with a Behinger product...

-Shaz
http://www.pobox.com/~whichcraft

[ColdAsh]

your'e probably right but im going with the masses. im sure they wouldnt have suck a bad rep unless there was a reason for it. BTW ive read articles by pros who say the same thing

[Link]

I've been using the Behringer Composers and Intelligates for years. I like em, they do the job that I want them to, and they sound pretty damn good....altho not as good as the RNC. I can't fault the intelligates or compressors at all......others on this board will probably disagree with me.

I haven't used any other behringer products, so I can't really make any comments or assumptions, but drawing on everybody's experience with Behringer mixers....I'd stay right away

Link

[Link]

your'e probably right but im going with the masses. im sure they wouldnt have suck a bad rep unless there was a reason for it. BTW ive read articles by pros who say the same thing


hmmm, Actually a "pro" told me that the Behringers were great little compressors and gates and that he uses them all the time in his studio, alongside neve preamps and his SSL desk etc......

I pretty much bought them on his recommendation, and also the fact that I got the composers and the intelligates dirt cheap second hand

[MISTERQCUE]

Originally posted by Shazukura
I only found these forums recently, but from what I've seen so far, Behringer seems to be the most despised producer of audio equipment in these parts (by leaps and bounds, even.) I'm simply wondering -- of all the people that post "Behinger Sucks" messages, how many have actually used a Behinger product for any reasonable amount of time?

I'm not insinuating that they don't deserve a bad reputation, but I'm curious how much of it is deserved. Of countless "Behinger Sucks" posts I've read, I think I've only seen 2 or 3 persons relate a bad personal experience with a Behinger product...

-Shaz

I'm one of those individuals that trash Behringer! But the ONLY
Behringer product I've trashed is their MIXERS!!! The worst ever made.
I use their comps,dsp's and their gates and I find them to be decent, middle-of-the-road gear designed for the budgetary recordist!

[Gidge]

Shaz,

have you read thru those threads you are referring to?....most times, people come to the defense of Behringer products...but the general consensus is that their mixers suck, and they kinda do......

[trebles]

Why bother with what the pros say it may be all nice in theory but can you really afford this gear ?

I feel Behringer have lifted their game alot since their early releases sure its not neve and studer gear but what do you want for the price too many people looking for miracles out of gear priced and geared at the entry level end of the market for example look at the ecm 8000 omni mics 35usd a piece thanks to Havey Gerst we are all the wiser now and behringer would be moving these as fast as Mc donalds moves burgers in this end of the woods just go look at the posts in the michrophone section

under behringer may have taken the lead for best bang for buck mic the title is something like that but read this and then say it all sucks then you can even hear the mic on peoples demos and it dont sound bad at all forget all the talk about behringer if this is what you can afford at least make an informed decision and find out what they have sold which is good value before you cast another bad post about behringer everything wether it costs a lot or a little in the right hands will do a half decent job but the best gear within the grasp of the inexperienced is as good as having no gear at all .

[Link]

"wether it costs a lot or a little in the right hands will do a half decent job but the best gear within the grasp of the inexperienced is as good as having no gear at all . "


Well said, too many people expect to be experts if they purchase the so-called "Pro" gear and expect "Pro" results only to come away disappointed because they don't know what they are doing in the first place....Ive seen it happen way too many times before.....the rich kid around the street got protools for his mac.....saying that he was gonna be the next big thing in engineering, After his first session he ended up selling it cos he didn't have a clue about things like mic placement......and he still continues to say that protools is the biggest load of shit program Sad world sometimes

[trebles]

I am learning alot about my gear purchases now

i too aspired to have visions of grandure as well but i guess i had to wind it down a bit as well.

I guess its nice to have all the stuff we want but in the end we do have to ask ourselves what will we do with all this gear essp if we are not making money out of this fulltime and lets face it the wonderfull rock and rock n roll days are well behind us now even though hard nuts like me wont let go the reality is i,ll de dusting all that great gear one day simply because there aint enough demand now for it all essp with whats been happening with big studios everywhere demand is alot less now and supply is not the problem.

The real survivors out there will be the very flexible studio owner who can turn their studio in many directions to suit many styles and budgets from the school kid to the big bucks person and iam sure you would not be hauling that a827 out to record the corner schools christmas holiday tunes etc

Its all a big pain in the ass really but thats just the nature how things go sometimes

We can all get hung up on icons and great gear but i feel a closer look really is the key to knowing where you really want to be

I too would like to move geffen studios into my room but the reality is alot different ..........................once i wipe the sleep out of my eyes and grab my first cup of tea for the morning as i stumble out of bed hmmmm .............................. the real world

[charger]

Behringer seems to be the most despised producer of audio equipment in these parts (by leaps and bounds, even

No, actually that would be Bellari.

[trebles]

in the end the consumer may be the deprived one for not checking out a products technical spec before they judge its overall quality

[Link]

Agreed Trebles, Way too many people tend to jump in before researching a product. I think everyone has done it before. My serious gear regret is the Alesis 3630, which I promptly got rid of. I don't really wanna turn this into a gear sledging thread though

[trebles]

i agree link i guess its just when others read this stuff i hope it assists them before they run out and buy in a hurry thats all

I myself have settled to have a basic operational quality set up untill such time i can build my own rooms to house all i will own the bank for now is the best place for my green folding stuff or is it the old shoe box i seek hehehe

[detuned6]

YES, i have a behringer mixer,YES its not the greatest mixer,BUT im asking about the Ultra Voice Pro, does anyone have one or used one!
good- ecm 8oo, b-2, compoeser
Bad- mixers
There you have it, some examples of good & bad behringer gear by "BBS" members.So lets end the behringer bashing, and help a brother out with his question.lol.

[Vurt]

I've never said anything about Behringer - good or bad - that i can recall, but I have had the Virtualizer and can honestly say that it's a giant piece of shit. Other than the delays, every effect is crap, and the design is too idiotic to describe.

[Chriss]

i'm quite a behringer fan actually.. bang for the buck..
when all hope seemed to be out for me cause i needed a mixer and couldn't afford one, i found the mx2642a and i'm very impressed by it for what it's worth.. i've been making music for 10 years, and for the amount of money i spent i must say i'm extremely pleased.
I think it has simply become cool to say "behringer sux" .. makes you sound like you actually know what you're talking about..
shure.. it's no mackey or anything, but it sure as hell doesn't cost a fortune either and it works and that's the main thing..

mrqq.. what's so bad about dem mixers? they have eq, they have buses, they have pfl, solo and mute.. they're more noisefree than my cup o' tea.. ehh?

[Treeline]

(More off topic - sorry)

I've used a small Behringer mixer quite a bit (1604), along with my Mackie (the B is quieter; the M sounds better and is more capable - at three times the price), and for my use and budget, it is a great little mixer. I think the key is to be aware of its limitations. I wouldn't expect it to hold up under rigorous tour use, but I'm not a tour type. And more money will get you better preamps, and so forth.

Maybe all I'm trying to say is know your market. Everytime I put together my dream list and fold it into the budget (such as it is), its Behringer and Mackie everywhere. Can you do better? Of course. Just throw a bunch more money in the pot.

[h kuhn]

Originally posted by ColdAsh
I think you should make it a rule that behringer = crap. maybe that have a good product out there somewhere but i dont know of it. the reason its only 129 is because thats all its worth (probably less). Try an ART MP (around $200) more expensive than the behringer and less features but i doubt you could even compare the sound. Ofcourse if you've tried it and you like it then go for it.

I haven't heard the ultra voice, but i own a ultragain pro. It really saved me that weekend as one of the channels of my mp20 passed out. Know what? It sounded cool, way better than what you can expect for less than 200 US$. And I have tried the art toy, too. *This* thing is real crap.
regards
Harald

[Jan]

I’ve got a B. patchbay and a B. dual preamp. First thing: B. is kitsch! They suck in quality control and they are kitsch kitsch kitsch!

The pre-amp that I have (I don’t know the name), Is supposed to be a tube amp. It does indeed have a tube! With three leds behind the tube that slowly start glowing when you turn the unit on (kitsch) faking that it is a tube warming up.

How does it sound?

Good, very good I must say.

Not both channels of course, quality control is absent, and we have to pay the price somewhere.

You don’t buy a calibrated stereo pair if you buy a B.

It does however sound good (at least one of the channels).

Jan

[Mark H.]

I encourage people to get started with whatever they can afford. As said before, the challenge isn't to make a great recording with half-a-million dollars in studio equipment, it's to make a decent recording with whatever you've got on hand, even if it's just a cassette deck with microphone inputs and a couple of inexpensive dynamic mics.

I think it's great that people here will tell us which Behringer units they've tried, and of those, which have performed satisfactorily and which have not. With the recent price cuts on almost all Behringer products in the US, I've looked more than once at the UltraGain Pro ($170) and the UltraVoice ($130) as possible stop-gap alternatives to waiting to get a better unit. I'd love to know what people's experience is with these two units especially, as well as the super-cheap "Shark," which claims to do everything to a mic input except sing the song for you for a whopping $70!

The ECM 8000 mics seem to be real stand-outs. Are there other Behringer products you can recommend from experience? I'm not suggesting that they have to sound totally great, but which units do the job in a reasonably musical way?

Thanks for sharing your experiences (good and bad) with all of us!

Mark H.

[trebles]

Behringer b2 seems to be an nt2 rebadge and @ 199 a good deal

[LongWaveStudio]

ive got a pro studio, and i have have some Composers in the rack. i know a lot of pro's who are using composers and i know a lot of people who use the intelligates.
i think the composer is a pretty cool compressor, definitely value for money aswell. the composer is used HEAVILY in live sound. ive seen em in the racks for oasis, stereophonics, manic street preachers, lots of brit bands (not sure about us..). i know that Garbage's producer favours them big time. there's a thing about him on the behringer website.
ive got some of the patchbays too which i haven't had a problem with.

[trebles]

I know ive already covered this but there always seems to be a critical glitch cast upon Behringer EVERYTIME thers a post on Behringer products.

Consider this you buy a mixer for 69 dollars equiv or less then what radio shack may charge you and probably a dam side better then the radioshack product and look what happens people winge and whine about how bad behringer is etc

YOU are not purchasing Neve, ssl, api,trident.yamaha,soundcraft,or mackie you are purchasing Behringer and it would seem some of their product dont stack up to the above but were they ever ment too?

Or where they more made to fill a hole in the market in the afordable gear section where most of us seem to be looking to buy gear?

They are are a big company or so it seems and i am sure they are not in business to lose business they have cut a large margin on their product line and id say I for one am willing to see whats good and what not if i can buy a compressor of them which can get close to what maybe an rnc is like or a similar compressor for such little money would i not be a fool then to forget about buying their product just because so many will say its bad ?

i think we all have to get over this lets knock Behringer and just look at their product spec more carefull if you have a gripe write to them iam sure their r&d people will want tohear your constructive views after all this only assists them to become better and you the consumer to get a better deal now dont this seem like a better way to go ?