Need Help With Vegas

[EnVISION Music]

We are using Vegas 1, we tried 2 but the damn direct x8 sucks, so we are using 1. Anyway, we can't get the tracks to record the vocals in stereo, only on the left..... we are using XLR inputs to the AARDVARK pro Q10 then to the computer. What are we doing wrong? Any advice please....... thanks in advance I am sure it's something really simple and stupid, but hey, have you ever lost your pen to only find it dangling on your ear? We think that is what this is...lol

[rjt]

Okay, dumb suggestion.... you didn't forget to select record stereo in input source?? (in vegas2, it is a right click on the track controls, select input source, at the bottom is says stereo, left, right).

As an aside, I know there were some problems with the original DX8, but have heard about very few lately (since the update).... what is wrong with it?

Take Care

[Queue]

HOOOOOLLLLLD on thar....

We need to step back a bit here.

"Recording Vocals in Stereo" are you using TWO mics? Or a stereo mic? Probably not.

Explain exactly what you are using from sound source all the way up to where it is plugged in to the Q10, and how many sources.

Queue

[SPINSTERWUN]

If you can't figure out the problem (in Vegas 1.0), then you could always channel convert the WAV. file in Sound Forge.

spin

[EnVISION Music]

Marshall MXL 2001 to the Q10 We use and alesis amp. I have checked the stereo input, but isn't the MXL2001 supposed to record on BOTH sides, not just the left?

[Queue]

I think you are suffering from a common newbie problem.

Let me try to explain the idea of making a stereo mix (abridged version, specifically addressing using a program like Vegas).

Record lots of MONO tracks into your favorite multitracking program (Vegas).

After recording:
Make adjustments to each of the MONO tracks' L-R pan, placing each track somewhere between Hard left --- Center --- Hard Right.

For instance (just an illustration here):
Bass: Center
Lead vocals: Center
Backup vocal1: 50% Left
Backup vocal2: 50% Right
Acoustic Guitar: 80% Left
Rhythm Guitar: 80% Right
Lead Guitar 10% Right

In Vegas, "Render" the file to a stereo .wav. This produces one wave file that contains a left and right channel. Voila! Stereo!

Queue

[Queue]

I forgot to tell you how to record a mono track...

When you click the red "arm track" button, a number appears to the left of that button. Click that number, and choose left or right, depending on whether the channel you are plugged into on the Q10 is odd or even (respectively).

If you want to monitor the track on both channels while tracking, you need to adjust that in the Aardvark's control panel (mixer looking software thingy). Should be a pan control at the bottom of the channel strip if it is similar to the Direct Pro 24/96 control panel.

Queue

[SPINSTERWUN]

Or.... use your channel converter in Sound Forge (mono to stereo 100%).



spin

[EnVISION Music]

I know all about mixing and panning........ it just seemed to me that it should "RECORD" on both left and right sides.... and it should.

[Queue]

Well, I will concede that Vegas should be able to record what looks like and is called a Stereo wav form.

--BUT--

If your source is ONE mic, then it is NOT Stereo, it is split MONO. Left and Right tracks, exactly the same, and having no real advantage over a single MONO track, unless you've got a plugin that will only accept a stereo .wav as input.

The only things worth recording as stereo (IMO) are devices that have stereo outputs (i.e. FX boxes, Keyboards, some guitars, binaural microphones, an X-Y pair of mics, etc. But still, unless your computer really sux, youd be better off recording many of those sources as two mono tracks, giving you more flexibility, in that you could do different things to each track individually where you could not if they were together in a stereo wav.

Queue

[EnVISION Music]

Ok OK Queue You are quite the professor of symantics... lol. It might say newbie on my profile, but I am not THAT much of a newbie..... (newbie enough to not know how to change the title of "newbie" on my profile though lol) I know that it isn't per say "STEREO" by definition, but the damn bastard should come in on BOTH CHANNELS....... and it doesn't... I am sure it is something stupid in the routing we are overlooking. I have my Triton going into the q10 with 2 separate lines coming from the L/R outputs on the Korg. It will show as R and L on the vegas........ and it does record in "stereo" (the definition thereof). Go figure ......

[Queue]

Env...
Didn't mean to come off patronizing or condescending, but you'd be suprised how many true newbies come along here completely confused as to how to make a stereo recording when all they have is mono tracks...

Still not sure why you want a "stereo" wav, but...

After poking around in Vegas (I'm using v2.0... brief tangent here... Directx 8.0 sucked, Directx 8a is fine, and I suppose 8.1 is fine as well, might still have issues with Cubase VST, but I don't use that, so Vegas 2.0 is fine here...)

...back to my reply where it was interrupted by DirectX tangent...

I cannot record a single line (line1) from the AARDVARK DP 24/96 and get a stereo wav with line 1 on both sides (in Vegas).

So, if you REALLY need a "stereo" wav from one line, you'll have to render it out that way. In VV2.0, you can solo a track (make sure it is panned center), and choose "render to new track" from the tools menu. Choose stereo wav, and there you go...

Or you could get funky on the Q10, and route the insert from channel 1 into the input for channel 2, and then you'd have your "stereo" wav that way.

Queue

[gnarled]

Originally posted by EnVISION Music
I know all about mixing and panning........ it just seemed to me that it should "RECORD" on both left and right sides.... and it should.

I think you are a little confused here (or maybe I am). Your Marshall 2001 is NOT a stereo mic. It uses a balanced cable (TRS) which can also be used for a stereo signal. But in the case of this mic and all other mono microphones, the 2 signals are 180 degrees out of phase and flipped and summed to a MONO signal at the mixer to cancel the noise in the cable.

If all you want is a stereo .wav file with the same thing on the left and right side, you can do any of the number of things suggested so far by spinster and queue. One more option would be to render that mono track to a new *stereo* .wav file and then import it back in, or render it to a new track as a stereo file. Although, I can't figure out for the life of me what the point of all this is unless you are using some stereo fx plug in on the vocals that needs a stereo file???

Hope this helped.

[SPINSTERWUN]

Wonderfully stated, gnarled (and Queue).



spin

[eclips1]

I run a Delta 1010 with Vegas 2.0.
When I arm to record on a track I am given the options of which inputs I want to use. Input 1 in vegas gives me the option or recording 1L(mono), 1R(mono), or just 1(which is stereo). To record input 1 in Vegas in stereo I have to have sound going to inputs 1 and 2 of my sound card. These 2 channels on my delta equal my 1 stereo input in vegas.

I only have 1 1'4" cable coming from my preamp for my mic. Whether it is trs or not makes no diffrence whether the sound gets bussed in stereo or not. If I have only 1 1/4" going to one input on my soundcard it will be recorded in mono(or if I still record it in stereo it will only come through the right or left side depending where I plug into).

If you arm to record on input 1 in vegas and your only getting sound through the left that's because thats the only input your sound is hooked up to. Switch input 1 to 1L and record your sound. When you play back the sound will be dead center(same source out of your right and left speakers) unless you pan otherwise. Just because your only recording the left side channel doesn't mean it will only playback from the left. It will play back in stereo through both speakers, but the sound will still be mono because the exact same thing playing out of your left will be playing out of your right.

What makes a sound stereo is when there is a diffrence in the sound coming out of the left and right speakers(atleast I think thats what stereo is??).