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Old 11-25-2001
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Behringer products !!!!!!

Is this a do or don't in your home studio
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as far as what?

mixers - dont
AutocomPro- I did
ECM8000- Im bout to

outside of their mixers, Behringers have a pretty good rep around here....
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here's my behringer shopping list

* composer pro
* ultragain MIC2200
* V-amp
* B2 condensor (either this or the C1)

I admit their mixer is off lower quality comparing to other bigger names, but I am using the 602a and it has been great for my needs...

and their price cut is a great blessing for people in third world country like me!
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Compressors and gates are good. Im dubious as to anything else
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i felt like their compressors sucked ass, noisy and dark. but maybe you guys like the 3630 too, get a 266xl by dbx if you want a cheap comp. mixers i havent heard but they dont break at least, im am in love with my ecm8000's now..
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Bruce,Bruce,Bruce....

Ill be one of the first to recommend the RNC....very smooth transparent unit.....I myself was about to buy one when Behringer dropped their prices...the Autocom went from $149 to $79.....thats enough of a price difference from the RNC for me.....

my impression of the Autocom?...I dont do impressions....

seriously, when you really try to squash something, youll get some artifacts....but on lighter settings it does well....on limiting and gating it does as well as ive seen a consumer priced unit perform.....
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I don't like behringer, but I do know this very pro guy who has a mobile unit with 24x the 2200 preamp. Because it sounded good was his argument. Now this guy is one of Hollands bigger recording dudes so who am I to argue him.
He compared them with I believe TLA and Focusrite.
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okokok. I know that Behringer comps aren't as good as the RNC's, but they aren't a bad compressor at all. Everything behringer that I own is second hand and I got it dirt cheap. I do like the compressor, BUT IT ISN'T FOR EVERYTHING. I'm quite happy to put drums thru the suckers tho. I know of a highly respected engineer in San Fran that actually recommend that I buy them for the price that the dude I bought em off was asking.

As for the alesis 3630, one thing that it can compress really really well is giant cockroaches, lots of colouration tho. You just gotta have a quick attack and slam hard above the threshold. Bug Killing has never been so much fun
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Outboard gear is so much the taste of the user and the amount of time spent tweeking.....I like (for a cheap user type of gear) my old symetrics 525's....not for everything mind you but you can find em all over for $100 or less.....of course they're not the drawmer...
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Whatever you do, don't buy a dbx266XL.. I hate the guts out of it.. totally useless IMO.
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Had a mixer and found it noisy and the pre's harsh.
Had a dynamic vocal mic and it was so bad I had great fun throwing it as far as I could into a lake.
Got a dual compresser and find it quite usable but not fantastic.
Got an active DI and LOVE it. I want 3 more.
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Active di's....could be the 'bomb' but what is there tha operates much better than a countryman di?...jensen transformer and isolation that we all 'dream' about..........try it on bass to the board....as an owner of a 65 p-bass and the voice of god(leo) pickup theres nothin better...nothin!!!
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From whatI've heard about the behringer stuff...the old stuff is a lot more reliable and better made than the new stuff. This is just what I've heard from a few people, if it's incorrect, feel free to punch the crap outta me.
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And the bottom line is it doesn't matter what's written on it or what other people think about it. If it works for you use it and screw everyone else.

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I am using the DI's and find their doing a good job, and for headphone distribution the headphone amp (ha4400 or something like that). I find these products great value for money but do find myself everytime in the spot where I have to explain to my clients why I'm using Behringer. They do associate it with inferiour material. Sometimes this is correct, sometimes this isn't. But fact is that someone who has his own little setup of material but still books a bigger studio because he or she believes they can do a better sounding job will be offended if he or she has to work with brands like behringer/samson etc. in that studio.
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BTW if your goal is to make recordings for a hobby and you have a long of learning in front of you and are on a tight budget etc etc etc etc. Behringer is definatly a good way to start. Their products have all the options and do sound good for the price etc.... I've learned quite some skills on them, and because I worked very intensive with behringer stuff I now can explain to myself why a TLA sounds better. Because I experienced the diffence not once, but 1000 times in different situations. It's like driving an old VW Beetle for three years and then buying a new beetle.

If your goal is to expand in the future, and your very serious about the equipment and recordings please save your money untill you can buy decent equipment. You'll always find yourself in the situation of trading multiple times untill you finally buy that pro gear. You'll loose quite some money this way (but as I state above you do get a lot of experience). You'll be better of with for example two great condensor mics that with 8 SM58's. So don't go for quantity but quality.

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I have one of their headphone amplifiers - nicely made and works great!

I've just received two of their ECM-8000s (recommended by Harvey Gerst) - they've been OK so far, although I haven't had a chance to try them out in a real situation - hey, for $35 apiece, they're great value even if only to keep as "loaners" ;>

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Behringer gear I own;

2-ECM's
1- AutoComm
1-Composer Pro
1-MultiComm
1-Intelligate
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1-UltiStereo
1-DSP Pro
ANNNNNDDDD ......ABSOLUTELY,POSITIVELY
NO MIXERS!!!!

Most of all I got most of this stuff after discounts of 65-75% off
of store sale!!!
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In view of Mr. Q's comment, I have to admit I thought people were too
tough on the mixers UNTIL last week when it became apparent that either
channel #3 or 4 on my Eurorack 802A mixer has a "level" problem-
a stereo signal into both channels that shows different levels, even
though they are identical in volume. (surprise, surprise)
If this keeps up, the "per channel" cost could surpass a Mackie!

P.S. The mic pre's are really harsh too, I hope the Mackie VLZ pro's are
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the Condensor mics are great but the euroracks suck bigtime

I've had some bad experiences with their mixers during live sessions. A mackie replacement solved it 9 times out of 10
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I'd think twice about that V-Amp too.

I tried it in a music store, and it sounded really, really cheesy. It surprised me, because (aside from mixers) I though Behringer stuff was all right.

The Digitech RP-100 sounded much, much better to me and it was a lot cheaper.

...let your ears decide...
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Their headphone amp/mixer is just the trick for creating multiple mixes. The amps could be a little more powerfull, but they do get the cans loud enough to hurt. A steal at $129.
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I just got a 24 channel MX 9000 mixer and I love it. It has a lot of routing options and for my ADAT project studio it works just fine. I admit I may not have as cultured an ear as some of you all, but I have not noticed any problems with it.
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I just got a 24 channel MX 9000 mixer and I love it. It has a lot of routing options and for my ADAT project studio it works just fine. I admit I may not have as cultured an ear as some of you all, but I have not noticed any problems with it.
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