Headphones

[ColdAsh]

I was planning on buying a piar of beyerdnamics DT100, but the shops sold out. He's now offering me a pair of DT770 Pros for the same price ($289 australian). Should i got for them? What are they like. Is there anything better for this price?

[The Green Hornet]

Yo chilly ashes:]

Don't know what the rate of exchange equates to: however, you have hit upon my favorite cans, the Beyer 770's.

Here in the USA they go for about 130 US dollars. You could call Full Compass @ their 800 number? Don't know if you can get away with that from Australia? But, you can get Full Compass on the net, as well as other major vendors.

So, if we are talking about the same amount of money exchanged, you'll enjoy the Beyer cans. The headpiece on the cans is a little tight but the sound is great.

Don't let those Salties snap at you.

Green Hornet

[SteveMcB]

I haven't tried the 770's, but I got the 250's (preferred them to the 100's), for around $300NZ. They're great cans


Steve

[Roel]

I got the DT770... Love 'em. Compared them in the shop with all other headphones, and they had the clearest sound. The shopowner agreed with me (I got his interest, I told them I wanted the best headphones he had, no matter the price...) Very clear non-exagerated bass respons.

[ColdAsh]

I know you should always use monitors for mixing and that but im too poor and it will probably be a year or so before i can buy monitors so what do u think they'll be like for helping me in my mixes.
Cheers

[ausrock]

Ash,
going on what the Green nasty Bug said about US pricing, I would say $289 Aust. is a fair price.

ChrisO

[ColdAsh]

Well lets hope so 'cause ive already bought them. Hopefully they'le arrive by Friday. Also note anyone in Australia, they've got SM57s for $185 www.factorysound.com. Well they did have but they're getting more in. Just dont anyone go buing them all before i get me one.

[Queue]

ColdAsh,
You are going to drive yourself CRAZY trying to mix phones only. I mix "in the cans" at night, and NEVER, I repeat NEVER have I had a good mix the next day. Things are WAY off. I try to limit my can activity to lining up tracks, comping vocals, other editing tasks. When it comes to how it sounds, you are going to have a hard time using cans. If you are planning on continuing at this hobby, monitors should be your TOP priority. Start saving NOW!!! You need monitors before "a year or so".

Queue

[ColdAsh]

Colud i get away with computer speakers?

[Queue]

Not really...

Consider the fact that you are trying to create something that sounds good across all systems. If you get something sounding good on computer speakers, it most likely will be Bass heavy on other systems. Basically anything other than monitors with a flat response curve and you're really handicapping yourself. On another thread, I tried to illustrate it by comparing it to "Reading through cheesecloth".

Queue

[The Green Hornet]

Yo Ashes of cold:

Q-man is very right. Mixing with only cans does not give you "what you hear" when pushed down to tape or whatever.

It's an anomaly. The environment of sound within cans, especially good ones, treats your ears and the cut appears to need little adjusting. Then, when you put it to tape and play it back, you will find the bass is thin or heavy, the lead vocal is covered with reverb, etc., etc. ect. to paraphrase the King and I.

You can give it a college try until you get some monitors. You might get lucky and get a good mix. But, when you get your monitors, you will set up your mixes with them all of the time.


Green Hornet

[ColdAsh]

In that case can anyone recommend some cheap monitors that will do the job until i can get some real moeny together for a decent pair. I want cheap monitors but also not crap ones.

[The Green Hornet]

Yo Dry Ice Ashes:

Easy to answer: Yorkville YSM-1.

You can't get a better pair of monitors for the money.

Don't know what they would cost down under. Lots of shipping charges -- but I use them and they do a fine job.

Green Hornet

[ColdAsh]

Well Hornet give me the US price and ill convert it. By the way i dont think i'll have to worry about shipping (we have audio stores down under too)


And no, Kanagaroos dont roam the streets

[ColdAsh]

Does it make a big difference if a monitor doesn have 20Hz-20KHz response?

[JFogarty]

just a small question, I didn't wanna start another thread: When i track drums, and play along with a click, I can never hear the click, because a.) I don't want to kill my ears with the click track volume. and b.) I guess my headphones don't block out enough. I just have some radom cheapo headphones. Would getting any pair of good ones solve this? Or are their specs that would show how well the headphones block out outside noise? Sorry this is long.

[Roel]

The sennheisser HD25 etc block pretty good. Better than the DT770, but these sound way better... Beyerdynamic also has lots of monitoring headphones and lists the Ambient noise isolation in their headphone specs.

[The Green Hornet]

Yo Glacial Ashes:

I paid 102.00 US dollars each for my YSM-1 monitors. I've read on this site that some folks got them for a few dollars less. I did not have to pay shipping as I bought them from a local dealer.

So, I'd say between 95 and 102 USD EACH for YSM-1's.

You'll enjoy them. I'm sure there are much better speakers out there but to start out or start up or just plain start, the YSM's are a good buy.

Green Hornet

PS I don't work for Yorkville or Beyer.

GH

[JFogarty]

Green Hornet,
What about the Yorkville powered monitors? Have you heard those/ heard anything about them?

[The Green Hornet]

Yo JForgarty:

I tell you about the power Yorkvilles if you send your warm weather to Michigan?

Just dreaming.

I've read a few reports on this site and all good words about the Yorkville Powered Monitors.

I don't know the cost of the units. But, you can punch up Yorkville on the net and ask them WHAZZZZZZZZZZZzup.

I'm happy with mine which are just monitors. Nice clear sound and great to use while mixing/mastering.

Watch out for the 'cudas while surfing.


Green Hornet

[JFogarty]

You mean my South Bend warm weather? Its going down hill right now. Plus, I'm like 5 miles away from michigan.

[The Green Hornet]

Yo JFogarty:

Well, man, if you're that close, I was fooled by your state locator.

And, if you stick around here, well, man, freeze your ass off with the rest of us.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Green Hornet

[JFogarty]

Nope, I'm going back to Tampa for thanksgiving. Yep, yep, yep. Think I'll stop by the beach after the turkey. Ahhhhhh.

[trew]

When i track drums, and play along with a click, I can never hear the click...Would getting any pair of good ones solve this?

I use a pair of Sony MDR-7506 headphones for tracking and live performing of drums to a click. VERY loud and decent isolation. They are, however, extremely bright, so you will probably want to EQ them a bit.

In that case can anyone recommend some cheap monitors that will do the job until i can get some real moeny together for a decent pair. I want cheap monitors but also not crap ones.

I couldn't agree more with the above statements about the importance of good monitors. I suggest putting off buying ANYTHING else until you've saved enough for the best monitors that you can possibly afford.

[laj35]

So is it decieving to believe home entertainment speakers(fairly expensive pioneers, mind you) are at all accurate when the effect setting is "flat"? Also, are those yorkvilles powered, if not what is needed to "power" them? Sorry if these seem to be ignorant questions but I'm just starting my research on what monitors to get as that seems to be the next only logical step.

Laj