Drum programming tips for trance/house anyone?

[toka]

Hey!

Does anyone have some good tips for how to create good sounding trance/house drum patterns?

How do you get the drum patterns moving? How do you edit the sounds?

I´ve read you can edit the velocity values for the hihats and use the shuffle function to get it all moving.

Whats the best drum software where i can make advanced drum patterns and have much control over every sound?

Please explain and give me the best tips for how to create trance/house drum patterns.


Regards

Toomas

[Atwork]

don't know if it's the best but Fruity Loops is good

http://www.fruityloops.com

[vulcanofga]

Logic is a good sequencer program and with the hyper edit function you can control the dynamics of each individual hit on any drum or cymbal.You can enter the drum hits with a keyboard controler or you can use the matrix editor and place the notes (hits) with the right click of the mouse.You can also use the high hat mode in the hyper edit window to taylor the sound of the open and close of the high hat.

Logic Silver is a good sequencer program but the audio is at 16 bit.It costs a little over $100.Logic gold and platinum is 24 bit but it is a lot more money.If you don't need the audio silver is fine.

Monty,

[sondriven]

I use fruity. Heres a link to some of my older songs I have created a new one. www.mp3.com/sondriven

If you buy fruity online you get free upgrades for life. Hate to sound like a salesman or something, but Im really into my software. I think the full version is under a 100 bucks now.

John

[charger]

FruityLoops is great. The best 140$ I ever spent, but I think it's only about 99$ now. If you understand step sequencing, it's really easy to learn. If you don't, spend a night learning Fruity and you'll wonder why there was ever another way.

Fruity also includes a bunch of cool sample songs that will get you started with trance and other electronica genres, you can just dig through them to find techniques that will work for you.

[sondriven]

Yup Fruity Rocks, stupid name but an awesome program!

[bizarre]

oh no - I'm not doin' this ...... just had the discussion on another board like "what's best" .... there is no way to tell what's best, but I just have to mention Propellerheads "Reason" - just got it and it's awesome
(well I did it - didn't I )
bizz

[charger]

Yeah, I have Reason too. It is definitely a lot easier to make human sounding drum lines with it. My biggest beef with Reason is that it's so hard to export loops from it. If I want to export a 4-bar drum loop, and the snare sound has a long decay, it gets chopped off, at least as far as I recall. I really prefer it for making some synth tracks, and the sampler rules. If I were comparing the two, I would say it's a lot easier to play a sampled instrument in Reason, and to get a human feel recorded for drums, but Fruity gives you a little more drum programming flexibility--for example, you can use 10 different samples of the same snare drum in Fruity to make your track sound that much more realistic, where you are limited to one or two (per drum machine) in Reason. And the loop rendering thing is a real bitch. But obviously they both have their place in my studio.

[jwgeetar]

i have the demo version of frooty and i am truly drum programming challenged. it is an awesome program but hey, i'm just a guitar playing songwriter. i play great rhythm that is the driving force behind my music---soo no problem with being precise.

now, does anybody have any suggestions,secrets,shortcuts to getting started with frooty? any tutorials? i need like a walk thru kinda thing. is that available on the full version?

thnx,jw

[charger]

The full version includes a bunch of programmed loops and songs, and you can download a manual that includes a fairly complete product walkthrough. You can also download a bunch of samples once you're a registered user from their site, including a whole bunch of "real drumkits," with example loops that can be used as great learning tools. There's also a great user community that can help you out if you get stuck. FruityLoops also includes a feature that lets you zip up your loop and the samples, then you can send it to someone else to help you out with it or help fix it... So for example, if your loops sucked and you asked me for some pointers, and it was in a genre I felt comfortable with, you could zip it up and email it to me, then I could work on it, zip it up and send it back to you...

Fruity is not as easy as buying a drum machine that will give you 100 pre-programmed loops in different styles, but it is a million times more flexible, sounds far better (just because you can use any drum sample you want) and it's probably 100$ - 150$ cheaper. And that's not even discussing the synths and other sound generators and plugins you can use...

[jwgeetar]

thanks charger, now i need to get confident enough with it to invest in it. i bought bluebox from steinberg a year ago for $70 and find it a waste cause i cant figure it out. i need to get to the point of doing it a coupla times all the way through on songs. problem is, the start up.

[sondriven]

Dont know if this will help ya, but I always just start with the simplest beat 1-2 1-2 1-2 1-2 and go from there after figuring how the rythym of song goes, I try to find the kick hits first. Maybe Im backwords, but its where I start and then work from there, it seems for me that the hardest place to get it right is the kick, but once that is in place, everything else kinda follows.....
man.....I dont know.....im hopped up on nite-quil tonight.
But what i like best is the editing of individual samples. Fruity is great for that!

Go to www.analoguesamples.com and sign up and download all the drum and synth sounds your hard drive can handle. The samples that I have are pretty good quality.