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Mastering solution!need steinberg apps help!

Hello!

First, the apps i have:

Cubase vst32;Wavelab2 and Master edition plugins

I have a Cubase session with 18 tracks, but i can t aply master effects to master the final song, cause is to much for my computer.

How to use my potential apps to do this job right?

I know i can use master edition plugins in wavelab in real time to master my music, but i have to mix all music after this.

Does anyone have nice patchs for some MasterEdition plugins?
How to use this Plugins at full power?(bought ME 2 days ago, don t know "nothing" about them)

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Hurry and go to the first musicstore you can find. Buy this book : 'how to become a mastering engineer in 1 day' Now start laughing at all those other engineers who learned mastering by experimenting for a couple of years.

After about a week you will be worldfamous. Now publish your own book. You will be farting rich in a month.

I know, i did the same before I woke up this morning.
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If you're applying master effects to the final song, just mix it down to a wav file and apply the effects in Wavelab.

If you're trying to apply your master effects to individual tracks, do this:

1. Make backups of your clean tracks (seriously, do this)
2. Apply the effects destructively. (once you've got them where you want them). This frees up your CPU for more effects.

It's not the most efficient way of doin' things, but it works. If you goof applying the effects, just restore your tracks from the backups and try it again.
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Even in pro situations, mastering is a completely different step done in a totally different studio by an engineer that specializes in mastering with specialized gear that doesnt exist in the recording/mixing studio....why?....

If you are using the same effects you have at your disposal when mixing, you should use them in the mixing process....Ed(sonusman) has posted some stuff here that was basically rough mixed and not mastered and it sounded better than most stuff posted here.....

Forget mastering and go back to basics....well tuned instruments recorded correctly with a good recording chain and mixed well....concentrate on your mixing chops and leave mastering to the bigboys.....i have alot to learn about recording and mixing before the word mastering will cross my lips....
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I use SteinbergME for my final mixes these days. You seem to not know what you're doing, well you're in luck. There are presets built into most of the ME plug-ins. Try them. You will have to create a stereo mix of your Cubase session first. Then open the mix in Wavelab and work on it. A couple recommendations. The ME Comp is great. It features multiband compression. Check out the presets and look and listen to what they do, you'll learn alot. Check out the puncher and the spectralizer also, they are good tools. After doing all your work Wavelab will let you check peak levels and normalize if needed.

Dont expect to be able to sound like a pro just because you own some pro software. It takes lots of time to be able to hear correctly.

BTW- I hope your monitoring system is great if you expect to do this work with Wavelab and Steinberg ME, otherwise your work will be futile.

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Yeah... kill all those tracks... you need to master your final stereo mix, not 18 tracks.
Not being of the skill neccessary to "master" these tracks, let me suggest that you not do anything more than normalize/compress the final tracks volume so they are consistant and of decent level, and maybe clean up the overall EQ. DO most of your EQ-ing and whatever prior to smashing down to 2 track. The FreeFilter plug is pretty neat, try it on a bunch of different source songs you like and see if it helps any. Its also good as a general EQ to get out traces of nasties cause its very narrow band.
One thing I would definatly do/try is adding some of that mastering edition saturation-effect on the entire mix. Also try using some on indivdual tracks in different amounts, especially drums and vocals.
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I didnt mean apply the effects to the individual tracks....I meant to work on mixing chops to fix whatever you are trying to accomplish....if your mixes need more volume, instead of compressing or limiting the mix, go back and see what you could have done during mixing or recording that would fix it.....

other than that, I echo H2H's and tubedude's comments....
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