about cleaning/enhancing samples...???

[PRiZ-one]

Okay, I'm not sure... but I have the feeling I could enhance samples i have, they don't have the vinyl crackles etc or any real noticable noise that's harsh sounding. But I try using the smoothing option in sounforge and it sorta makes a drum hit sound better, but takes form the dynamics noticably, as in the drum wont hit as hard etc.

Overall I'm just wondering what you all do for the samples you use, do you do anything to clean the old dusty feeling of it, or to enhance it in anyway before looping it for a beat etc...?

This would mean alot to know. because I'd like to get the most out of my sounds and the clearest possible sounds. I've tried sonic Foundry's noise reduction and it doesn't seem to really make much difference, just slightly changes how my drums sound.

Please let me know anything you can about this.
Thanks, Peeeeze!

[tdukex]

I would try some eq. For kick drums (and for a lot of instruments) try a small boost around 5-8 khz to add some clarity and high-end presence. For kick drums, a boost around 50-100 hz will add bottom end. For many instruments, 250-800 hz is the muddiness range, so a small cut here might help also.

[PRiZ-one]

I'd like some more advice if anyone has any.
I tried the analog X vocal remover, and it didn't do ANYTHING!

Does anyone know how to separate the left and the right and loose the middle portion of the song, i heard this sometimes works, because vocals are usually recorded to the center of a track, but i can't find out how to do it in soundforge or anything in that matter.

Thanks!

Peace!

[Blue Bear Sound]

Invert the polarity of one of the channels, pan both channels to mono (centre pan position), bring up the level of one channel, then the other. As the level approaches the level of the other channel, you'll the sound become "phasey", then the centre-signal information will drop out to a degree.

This will not work at all on a mono signal, only on a stereo signal - and what you are actually hearing is the L-R component of the stereo signal.

Bruce

[PRiZ-one]

okay! I'm stuck I have no idea how to adjust the polarity in soundforge at all simple because I don't know where or even if it can do this...? Is there an option I should click a plug-in to to this...? If this can't eb doen in soundforge? what can do this?
Thanks I appreciate the help.

[Blue Bear Sound]

I don't know about via s/w - I would think you can... .but anyways - you can get around it by running the 2 channels to a mixer -- you'll need balanced channels and one 2-conductor cable with the 2 hot leads cross-wired (ie, tip is connected to ring at one end - this inverts the signal polarity)

You use the cable on only 1 of the channels of the signal............


Bruce

[PRiZ-one]

WHoooo!
I think you got the wring idea, I got the sample on computer...
I'm wondering how to take the vocals out the mix with soundforge or a computer program...?
The same method you listed above.
I sampled off a cd, I still need to cop my tables for records.

I don't know about splitting wires and shiet hahaha...I don't think I'd do all that, there's plenty of niceness without vocals overtop, I could surfice. But I'd still like to get this solved. thanks...

[Blue Bear Sound]

*sheesh* I KNOW you're using a computer... you said you couldn't find out how to invert polarity via your software, so I gave you an alternate way to do it using hardware!

If you find out how your s/w allows you to invert polarity, then follow my first instructions!!!!!!!

yikes! C'mon Priz... get with it, we don't need to do 30 threads to tell you how to invert polarity, do we????

[Tom Hicks]

If your software supports vst plugins,the cubase webring offers sites with lots of them for free.At one such site I found a phase reversal plugin.Sorry I don't remember which specific site,but at least you know its out there if you have enough interest to go look for it.If your software only supports directx plugins,there are free software apps that allow you to use vst in a directx environment,also somewhere on the cubase webring.
Bruce is giving you good advise,Priz-one.He is one of the better resources here.So,even if you don't quite understand all the ins and outs of what he says,it would be to your benefit to "go to school" on the backs of those who have been there before.

Tom

[PRiZ-one]

Blue-bear, I understood what you were saying on your first post, I know what your talking about, but I just don't know what program will, "or" option in soundforge will let me do this.

I tried a vocal remover that was VST I'm pretty sure, but it didn't work. I wanted to try the panning the sides trick... not panning as in move the whole sound source to one speacker like L or R, but just move the R or L side out of the mix until teh center of the song is taken out...?
I understand you need a stereo sample obviously. I think most programs would let me do this. I was wondering what option in what program can do this...?

I'll try looking for more vocal removal programs, but what will do what I'm talking about I don't even know what it's called... besides the fact that vocal removal plug-ins work the same way, I'd rather do it by myself since no vocal removal progarm seem to be working.

okay, appreciate the advise...

peaz!