Label needs some one to mix and master!

[TruState]

I have a label full of talented individuals including myself. I mix and master all of our songs, but now days i have been overwhelmed with school, family, and music. I'm am looking for some one who will assist with the mixing and mastering. We are on a low budget, it's not like we are signed yet. We have offers and have been recognized by major record labels connects such as Walter Bryd, the former manager of former Dipset Affiliate Max B. I'm a humble and honest person that is willing to give all credit to the engineer. As far as money goes, we can work out a contract. We are looking for someone to bring with us to the top. When a deal is cut with a major label, we will make sure that you will get taught by the best in the craft.

You can take a listen to our music at myspace.com/trustate

[gecko zzed]

Originally Posted by TruState

I have a label full of talented individuals including myself. I mix and master all of our songs, but now days i have been overwhelmed with school, family, and music. I'm am looking for some one who will assist with the mixing and mastering. We are on a low budget, it's not like we are signed yet. We have offers and have been recognized by major record labels connects such as Walter Bryd, the former manager of former Dipset Affiliate Max B. I'm a humble and honest person that is willing to give all credit to the engineer. As far as money goes, we can work out a contract. We are looking for someone to bring with us to the top. When a deal is cut with a major label, we will make sure that you will get taught by the best in the craft.

You can take a listen to our music at myspace.com/trustate

Excellent! I'm pleased that your business is shaping up well with lots of promise.

Now place an advertisement in the positions vacant section of your newspaper.

[miroslav]

Work out what kind of contract...pay as you go...or pay when you make it big?

I would do it for free...but then, I would need you to come cut my grass and rake my leaves and shovel my driveway this winter...for free...
...but I promise to give you credit for the work.

Dude...we are all in the same boat...overwhelmed with life, family and music.
It's hard enough getting our own work done.

[SouthSIDE Glen]

I honestly wish you the best of luck, but aren't you aiming kind of low looking for a house engineer in a home recording forum?

G.

[miroslav]

Awww...c'mon Glen, I thought we weren't going to differentiate between home and pro.

[SouthSIDE Glen]

Originally Posted by miroslav

Awww...c'mon Glen, I thought we weren't going to differentiate between home and pro.

Don't start, miro. You've already got a forum tennis opponent to rise to your bait this weekend. I'm not biting.

G.

[miroslav]

Awwww shucks!

[LemonTree]

I'd do it easy if say you had a sister that could come over and do free stuff for me.

[kcearl]

Originally Posted by SouthSIDE Glen

Don't start, miro. You've already got a forum tennis opponent to rise to your bait this weekend. I'm not biting.

G.

pity he lost in straight sets......:nowink:

[SouthSIDE Glen]

Originally Posted by TruState

When a deal is cut with a major label, we will make sure that you will get taught by the best in the craft.

I'm reminded of that scene in "The Magnificent Seven", when the Mexican farmers are first looking for hired guns:

FARMER ONE: Let's hire him, he looks mean; he has a scar on his face.

FARMER TWO: I'd rather have the man who gave him that scar.

Why would you want to hire someone who needs to be trained? You should be going after the trainer.

Especially if you really expect a real label to actually take the engineer along with your talent. A label probably isn't going to give a shit about hiring a no-name engineer; all they are interested in is if you have an artist talent pool from which they can make money. They can hire any engineers they want once they have that, and not have to worry about anyone who isn't even an engineer yet because they still need training.

Now, if you truly believe in your product and it's future, as it sounds as if you do, you should be able to sell your idea to a Named Engineer who would be willing to not only help you with the engineering, but give you the extra cache in the business to get you foot in more doors. That's where you should be shopping. Aim higher. Do some research on personalities, target some specific names, and go after them.

G.

[miroslav]

Originally Posted by SouthSIDE Glen

Why would you want to hire someone who needs to be trained?

I think the key word for the OP is "hire"...vs....free.

I agree that if the music is THAT good, there may be someone(?) out there who could become intersested that could do great enginnering and also push them forward...but finding that person is the hard part, especially to get them to do it free...on spec toward some "future payoff".

Glen is right...little chance of finding them on an Internet audio forum.

[miroslav]

Originally Posted by kcearl

pity he lost in straight sets......:nowink:

Is the Cave slow again...or do you just like being in my shadow?

If you're going to post-up on the audio forums...why not hold off until you have something of value and substance to add.
Of course...there's always the Newbie forum....you can impress there without too much effort.

Hey...maybe you should hook up with the OP...he says you will be taught by the best in the craft.

[kcearl]

Originally Posted by miroslav

Is the Cave slow again...or do you just like being in my shadow?

If you're going to post-up on the audio forums...why not hold off untill you have something of value and substance to add.

Of course...there's always the Newbie forum....you can impress there without too much effort.

I'm in the shadow of a person who shouts racist when someone says "my slavic friend" once? lol

and your post has value and substance does it?

I'll post where I like, this is a public forum..

Also I am a newbie why would I try to impress my fellow newbies? you seem to be the one out to impress dude..I was having a bit of fun..you're going to start crying again and your pals will try to boost you up by saying you're good at this internet malarky

news just in..your not, your skins too thin

[kcearl]

and you added an edit...maybe I will join the OP..I could do with the experience..Im not above learning

[miroslav]

Yeah...just like figured...you are the one crying now.
Well I'm just having some fun too, so stop sobbing about it.

I guess you didn't get the sarcasm....

[miroslav]

Good...join the OP.

Come back when you have something to add, instead of just showing up in threads to stir up shit and then crying about the responses you get.

[kcearl]

Originally Posted by miroslav

Yeah...just like figured...you are the one crying now.
Well I'm just having some fun too, so stop sobbing about it.

I guess you didn't get the sarcasm....

No I didn't, remember I don't think you have the finesse with the subtleties of the English language to casually drop sarcasm into a post..

apologies...I stand corrected

I will try to tune in to your "pro" sense of humour next time <=== that was a joke


enjoy your day..I'm off to stick another offering up in the MP3 clinic..I've got a 50% success rate in there so far so fingers crossed I'm improving

[kcearl]

Originally Posted by miroslav

Good...join the OP.

Come back when you have something to add, instead of just showing up in threads to stir up shit and then crying about the responses you get.

wow you nearly did good...now youve fucked it again

1. I wasn't the one to bring it up...Glen did when he tried to pat your back like your weren't whipped yesterday..unlike you I can read between the lines and don't need the "vagueness" fully explained


2. I accuse you of whining like a baby so you automatically say " oh no its you who is crying"...ah self owning in its raw and beautiful form..


3. I would have no problem helping the OP if i had the experience or time...or I could just maybe mock him..because that is really "adding to something" huh?

[miroslav]

The MP3 Gods will be happy.
Do you stick it with a knife?
Take better aim this time...I'm sure you can imporve your 50% success rate.

[kcearl]

Originally Posted by miroslav

The MP3 Gods will be happy.
Do you stick it with a knife?
Take better aim this time...I'm sure you can imporve your 50% success rate.

I think I can "imporve" on my 50% success rate

[miroslav]

I can see this is going to be tough if you are not going to pay attention to my "pro" humor and sarcasm....


You said:
I'm going to stick another offering in the MP3 Clinic.

I said:
The MP3 Gods will be happy.
Do you stick it (the offering) with a knife?
Take better aim this time (when you stick the offering)...I'm sure you can improve your 50% success rate.


That's what I was "babbling" about (I caught that line before you did your edit).

I see your English comprehension has its moments...I'll write slower for you from now on.

[kcearl]

Originally Posted by miroslav

I can see this is going to be tough if you are not going to pay attention to my "pro" humor and sarcasm....


You said:
I'm going to stick another offering in the MP3 Clinic.

I said:
The MP3 Gods will be happy.
Do you stick it (the offering) with a knife?
Take better aim this time (when you stick the offering)...I'm sure you can improve your 50% success rate.


That's what I was "babbling" about (I caught that line before you did your edit).

I see your English comprehension has its moments...I'll write slower for you from now on.

Hey grabbing random words and inserting them in sentences gets no comprehension skill points


But yes it was an attempt...and yes I didn't spot it at first...so deuce

[miroslav]

And no one is "mocking" the OP....at least not any more than you were doing in the "How much should I pay for amature mixing & mastering" thread with comments like this:

Originally Posted by kcearl

$18.50 or see what you can get on ebay...

Of course...when it's pointed out to you, you like to footnote your posts by saying you're just "having fun".


Joking around and some BBing is fine...but don't play the part of the victim when it comes back at you.
I think your biggest problem (outside of the Cave) is that you seem to have a chip on your shoulder with folks that have more experience than you with audio and/or those that may have better studio rigs than you.
You've beaten that drum quite a few times in the short time you've been on the HR forums.
What's that all about?

Most guys here that you consider "snooty" and "blowhards" actually spend a LOT of time giving out hard-earned information to newbies (FOR FREE)...BUT guess what...they are going to give it out on THEIR terms, not the newbie's.
If that's bothersome to you...well...they ARE the ones that have the info...so I guess you need to just live with it.

You can join up and we can all hold hands and sing a song or somethin’...or you can keep pissing against the wind...
…whatever gives you greater returns.

[SouthSIDE Glen]

Originally Posted by miroslav

I think the key word for the OP is "hire"...vs....free.

We're on the same side here, this response is more for the OP than for you; I'm just quoting to continue the worthwhile, non-subterranean part of this thread.

When you start promising things like contracts, credits and future positions (at least one of which you are not in a position to promise), you are not offering anything for "free", you are in fact making an offer of some value. It is a hire.

The problem is, that value and a buck will get you a large soda at McDonalds; only the desperately thirsty will take it. Is that really what you want your Big Chance to hinge around?

You can't promise the future engineer position, nor the training; you simply are not in a position to offer those things at this time, as those will depend upon the real label that wishes to buy you when the time comes.

As far as engineer credit, that only has value to those who have little or no credit now. Again, while there are some great up-and-comers out there, is that really the basket into which you want to gamble the future of your enterprise?

If you have the talent and the vision lined up, you should be able to find and hook a managing partner in the form of an engineer with the experience - and maybe even the connections - to actually take you to the next level. But first, you have to find who's potentially in such a position, and then get to work actually selling them on the idea. This involves more than just posting a couple of meSpace links - though those are helpful. It means a) getting an official business plan together, b) figuring out who would even be in a position to seriously take such an offer, c) pitching the plan *and* selling yourself as someone with whom one would wish to do the business of your plan, and d) making a real and substantial offer in the form of a percentage partnership in the venture.

IMHO YMMV 3DBB ETC.

G.

[kcearl]

Originally Posted by miroslav

And no one is "mocking" the OP....at least not any more than you were doing in the "How much should I pay for amature mixing & mastering" thread with comments like this:

dude I never said I wasn't mocking anyone anywhere, let alone another thread..it was you who said if I had nothing to add of substance..I said I could always mock the OP... like that's adding to substance, huh?

you're doing it again man....

Of course...when it's pointed out to you, you like to footnote your posts by saying you're just "having fun".

yes I am..that's why I come here..I wouldn't if it wasn't fun..why do you come here?

Joking around and some BBing is fine...but don't play the part of the victim when it comes back at you.

Victim? am I the one who shouts racist when someone calls me Scottish? get a grip

I think your biggest problem (outside of the Cave) is that you seem to have a chip on your shoulder with folks that have more experience than you with audio and/or those that may have better studio rigs than you.
You've beaten that drum quite a few times in the short time you've been on the HR forums.
What's that all about?

Your trying to psychoanalyse me? this is laughable


the only drum I've beaten is when one member constantly puts down a piece of audio equipment that he hasn't used..

And im not very appreciative of blowhards with "former music bigshot" in his avatar and calls newbies snotty nosed twerps...you can be in that camp if you want..I hate that kind of shit

no chip with anyone else..none at all, though Im developing one for a guy who thinks he can mix it until he gets backed in a corner, then tries to shout racist and when that doesn't work he thinks by going "on topic" he's somehow proved a point

that sunshine is a loser's loser

Most guys here that you consider "snooty" and "blowhards" actually spend a LOT of time giving out hard-earned information to newbies (FOR FREE)...BUT guess what...they are going to give it out on THEIR terms, not the newbie's.
If that's bothersome to you...well...they ARE the ones that have the info...so I guess you need to just live with it.

which guys do I consider snooty or blowhards?

Im not trying to change anything here...but if some ones an asshole in my vicinity they are going to get called on it..I couldn't care if they're mother Teresa or bleedin Gandhi..

You can join up and we can all hold hands and sing a song or somethin’...or you can keep pissing against the wind...
…whatever gives you greater returns.

this is giving me the greater return...just conversing with you is proving more valuable than anything

I used to just go to three forums on the site..I've now found a fourth to hang out in that's just as fun..and it appears to be your fault..ho hum