Vinyl now in Best Buy

[SteveM]

Just thought it was funny. They're selling records now in best buy. There are not a lot of them but a select few. I was surprised.

[Peck]

that's pretty cool actually. making a comeback

[sweetbeats]

...!

[SteveM]

What I remember was:
Metallica
Guns and Roses Chinese Democracy and a reissue of Appetite for Destruction
A Queen box set
some rap records
Elton John
A bunch of others I can't remember.

[Dr ZEE]

Steve, there over 6,000 vinyl items in their on-line store http://www.bestbuy.com/, including 'upcoming' releases
Marilyn Monroe is back on plastic too, heh heh

[Daveg62]

The new Chickenfoot release is out on lp also. I saw it at BestBuy but then when I went back they were all gone. It's a double lp and has and extra song that isn't on the cd.

[dodgeaspen]

That's cool!!! I'm hopping it stays around for many years to come. My turntable broke a few years ago and I now am looking at replacing it. Thanks for the post. I'm a happy man.

[Lance Lawson]

Wow that's pretty funny. Once the record departments were packed with vinyl with a few select CD's. With any luck the trend will continue. I imagne that if they were to put new techology, materials and methods into vinyl recordings that they could made it even better than ever. I better get my belt replaced on my turntable.

[SteveM]

They're probably getting wise to that idea that vinyl may not be that bad seeing as you can't pirate it on the internet.

[SteveM]

Originally Posted by Dr ZEE

Steve, there over 6,000 vinyl items in their on-line store http://www.bestbuy.com/, including 'upcoming' releases
Marilyn Monroe is back on plastic too, heh heh

Oh cool. They have the new re-release of Strawberry Alarm Clock on Sundazed.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....p=1&id=2001997

[Herm]

I think I will stick with my original 45 that is a radio station copy with Incense on both sides

[Herm]

Dang thats big

[jjones1700]

I bought the reissue of GnR from Best Buy a month or so ago. It was a little pricey, but if my dollars can show there is still interest in vinyl, so be it.

[jpmorris]

Originally Posted by SteveM

They're probably getting wise to that idea that vinyl may not be that bad seeing as you can't pirate it on the internet.

I can assure you that people have done that, it's just that CDs are quicker and more convenient to rip.

Interesting stuff, though. I'm halfway tempted to look into it, though my turntable is borderline useless and the purists, it's pretty much a dead cert that they're digitally remastered anyway.

[SteveM]

Originally Posted by jpmorris

I can assure you that people have done that, it's just that CDs are quicker and more convenient to rip.

Interesting stuff, though. I'm halfway tempted to look into it, though my turntable is borderline useless and the purists, it's pretty much a dead cert that they're digitally remastered anyway.

The Sundazed ones aren't. I'm sure a lot of the others are.

[Bguzaldo]

Is there any benefit to listening to the new Metallica record on Vinyl? Even if it is 20 times less compressed its still 10 times more compressed than anything from back in the day. And I'm sure it was done entirely digital, so what would the benefit of putting it on vinyl? The missing frequencies aren't just going to reappear!

[Muckelroy]

Originally Posted by Bguzaldo

Is there any benefit to listening to the new Metallica record on Vinyl? Even if it is 20 times less compressed its still 10 times more compressed than anything from back in the day. And I'm sure it was done entirely digital, so what would the benefit of putting it on vinyl? The missing frequencies aren't just going to reappear!

What needs to happen is a concerted effort at either

1.) Pressing the vinyl, by creating stampers from the same "mother cuts" that were used to press the same vinyl release back in the day.
2.) If the original mother cuts cannot be found, or are no longer usable, create new mother cuts by cutting them fresh, using the original analog master tapes (2 track, or in some cases 4 track). The better they can research and reproduce the mastering techniques used to cut the original mother cuts, the better.

[HomeGos]

love vynil, but lately Im getting lazy and dont listen to them, have a good collection, oldies and second hand,,, its just I dont have the right place to listen to them , my apartment is kind of small, but have some turntables, a project II , a Dual, etc..

Now that I work with and for the music , I chill out in a different way...
well maybe Im getting old.

[Rich Smith]

Really glad they're selling them!

But, I looked at the online listing of 6,000 albums. It really needs help.... no Stevie Ray.... no Mountain. And they need to pick up the Rino catalogue or sump'in.

But it's a good start!

Rich Smith

[Muckelroy]

Originally Posted by Bguzaldo

Is there any benefit to listening to the new Metallica record on Vinyl? Even if it is 20 times less compressed its still 10 times more compressed than anything from back in the day. And I'm sure it was done entirely digital, so what would the benefit of putting it on vinyl? The missing frequencies aren't just going to reappear!

So I just realized that my last post was a bit misguided.

Clearly you were concerned about the validity of listening to vinyl for albums that are new, or very recently recorded. So the likelihood of those albums being recorded and mastered on digital media is very high. Therefore, you're asking..... what's the point of cutting a digital master to vinyl?

Well I don't think that cutting to vinyl will, by any means "add" frequency content to the original recording. But vinyl has a very special way of responding. The physical movement of the needle, both as the master is being cut and as the record plays back means that the needle has to move smoothly back and forth. A digital recording may have high frequencies (usually supersonic) that are either entirely lost, or "square" sounding, because the sample rate of digital recordings doesn't accurately capture the actual movements of that vibration of air, and creates a jagged line of a waveform rather than a smooth fluid waveform.

Jagged waveforms in a digital recording, when played back through analog speakers, and listened to by analog eardrums, can sometimes have undesirable effects, including

1.) Loss of that sound completely
2.) Generation of alias frequencies, or frequencies that don't exist in the original sound, because the morphing of the waveform makes unexpected frequencies to come out as a result.

This aliasing is also what happens when a digital waveform peaks, or becomes square instead of hilly. A square waveform has a great deal of harsh high frequency content, as opposed to a sine waveform, containing more fundamental frequencies.

So will the record cutting lathe work magic on a crappy digital master? No. But if it's a good digital master, I would imagine that the smooth back-and-forth mechanical movement of the record cutting lathe and the consume record needle would do nothing but good to the overall program material, smoothing out what it can.

[JRSIV]

The ELP Laser Turntable is expensive, but if you really love vinyl, it's the only way to listen. The five beam laser system picks up every nuance in the grooves while never touching the record; making a vinyl record last just as long, or longer, than a CD.

At the 2004 CES show here in Vegas I saw these machines in action and besides being cool as shit to use and look at, they sounded unreal! The only thing close is the super high end reference turntables like these http://www.highendpalace.com/HEP%20Analogue.htm, but even they will cause wear on records and some cost more than the ELP.

Of course at $15 grand they're out of most people's reach...but they are drool worthy!

[Muckelroy]

No thanks. I'm perfectly happy with my college music department reject turntable that only needed a 20 dollar needle :-)

It's an Elac Miracord turntable, with a wooden case, and an all-mechanical belt-driven transport. It sounds good and gets the job done

[Dr ZEE]

Originally Posted by JRSIV

.... they are drool worthy!

Yes. Shiny things do stimulate the gland.

Also, "Audiophile Society" and everything that relates to it has very little (arguably nothing) to do with audio fidelity.

/respects