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How bad are you getting screwed with the Wireless transition?

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Do I have to repeat the question?

No, you just have to explain it.
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Most people aren't affected too profoundly. I think Shure has a bunch of information on it on their website...at least they did a couple of months ago.

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Kind of a wait and see, really. It will take awhile before the handheld device market starts to utilize the bandwidth. I understand that venues can register frequencies, which should protect the church's wireless stuff, and that's a big enough facility with a large land buffer such that it would take somebody using a handheld during Mass . . . which I fully expect will occur

I feel bad for a lot of the gigging musicians around here; many of them play at different venues every night, so I don't see how they will register use of their frequencies unless they devote their life to that . . . and there are bound to be patrons with devices throwing off interference . . .
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Well...I think everyone was always supposed to register their bandwidth use, but everyone has always ignored it. I can only think of a time or two in the last ten years of my design career where anyone actually called called out for it.

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Well...I think everyone was always supposed to register their bandwidth use, but everyone has always ignored it. I can only think of a time or two in the last ten years of my design career where anyone actually called called out for it.

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There are consequences now though . . . devices using the spectrum are supposed to be smart enough to check the registry, and not use the registered frequency according to their location. Therefore, if you register you can potentially avoid interference.
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My church has two handheld systems that will need to be replaced. (700-799hz sennheiser 300 series systems) I have been talking to the admin Pastor about it and they seem to think they will be able to use them anyway. I did my job!
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I have never used a wireless mic, and I never will, until they place it in my cold, dead, hand.-Richie
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It all comes down to money. How many $$ are generated / taxed by musicians using wireless mics? ZERO ... How much money can be generated / taxed by selling the bandwidth and allowing cell phone providers to sell their services.???? BILLIONS....
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I guess it's just a trust issue for me. Having something wireless means more parts, and the higher likelihood to have said parts broken, lost or stolen. So no wireless for me, so not affected. But I'm still new to this thing. And sometimes cables are a real drag (pun intended).

Wireless is also more prone to issues in general, extra batteries needed to charge/replace to keep things moving, and interference even before this bandwidth shift. So no plans for wireless in my near and maybe distant future. I'm trying to eliminate issues, not create them. Besides, after cigarettes and alcohol are banned for their health detriment potential, wireless will be the next axe to grind. Maybe those tin foil hat people weren't so out of it after all. I can't even get my wired gear to be 100% percent without tin foil. So no thank you to wireless.
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No, you just have to explain it.

I guess this one went over my head and I'll just go back into my cocoon now. Carry on!!
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Well, anyone with 700MHZ gear is kind of screwed, since, as I understand it, use is prohibited after today. There are probably many, many thousands of users of gear using this band out there. I also suspect that many of them are clueless about this issue as well.
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http://www.fullcompass.com/wireless/...ssTradeIns0609

The "WTF" factor is part of the controversy, so don't feel dissed---a LOT of people were blind-sided. Since Google and Microsoft are reported to be the major bidders for the reallocated frequencies, there's little chance that a lot of front-line gigging musicians/vocalists aren't going to experience a bite with this one.

Regarding the "...you shoulda all along...": shame on us for buying long-established brand-named products from reputable dealers that came with affixed decals and literature that proclaimed "...meets all federal FCC blah, blah, blah...!"

Oh well, progress. For those of us who have gone mobile on stage, it's virtually impossible to go back to hardwire---pops, crackles, pulling your wah pedal across the stage, not being able to run over to your keyboard player and point out something going on in the club, getting into (literally) the audience, really hearing how you sound on the gig, etc.

While I shop for some safe gear, I guess it's time to pull out the old Shure VHF unit---which, LOL, still works fine and is unaffected by this mess.

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The "WTF" factor is part of the controversy, so don't feel dissed---a LOT of people were blind-sided. Since Google and Microsoft are reported to be the major bidders for the reallocated frequencies, there's little chance that a lot of front-line gigging musicians/vocalists aren't going to experience a bite with this one.
I didn't know this whole deal affected wireless systems.
Guess I'm not the only one. Thanks for the link.

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. . . also, wireless headphones and speakers, remote home security devices (sensors and cameras), etc.---Anything in that 698 - 806MHz band.

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Me too. Never fully trusted wireless anyway. Not too crazy about in-ear monitors either. All this new-fangled junk!
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