Question about mixing and matching overheads in a Glyn Johns setup

[MascisMan]

Hey guys!

When I first started using the Glyn Johns setup I used 2 SM57's as overheads (because my condensers were in the mail), an SM57 close mic'd to the snare, and a Sennheiser e902 on the kick.

I really liked the sound I was getting ftom the SM57 that hovered over the snare but didn't like the SM57 that was placed next to the floor tom.

I received my condensers (AT2035's) and quickly replaced the overheads with these. I do like the more open sound the AT2035's are giving me but I do miss some of the direct "snap" snare sound I was getting from having the SM57 hovering over the snare.

Would is be ok to combine these ideas? I would still use the AT2035's as overheads via Glyn Johns. However, I would place an SM57 next to the AT2035 that hovers over the snare (essentially giving me 3 overheads).

Anyone try anything similar to this before? I guess I could pan the AT2035's L and R and the 57 I could keep centered or panned L with the condenser. If all 3 mics were the same distance ftom the snare head would I have any phasing issues?

[RAMI]

The best thing to do is try it. What I would recommend would be to close mic the snare with a 57 and use the condensers as overheads.

[MascisMan]

Originally Posted by RAMI

The best thing to do is try it. What I would recommend would be to close mic the snare with a 57 and use the condensers as overheads.

This is what I have been doing. I kind of like the SM57/snare sound better from 36" up than from 3" up though....

[RAMI]

Originally Posted by MascisMan

This is what I have been doing. I kind of like the SM57/snare sound better from 36" up than from 3" up though....

Then that's the way to go if you like it better.

[mixsit]

Do you pan the two mics wide? The only downside might be the uneven tone on the overall kit picture, light on lowend on the 57 side for example. It's the time alignment that centers the image, I whouldn't expect that to change.

Originally Posted by MascisMan

.. If all 3 mics were the same distance ftom the snare head would I have any phasing issues?

Opps I missed that.
Same in that resepect though- equal distance is equal time = in phase.

[MascisMan]

Originally Posted by mixsit

Do you pan the two mics wide? The only downside might be the uneven tone on the overall kit picture, light on lowend on the 57 side for example. It's the time alignment that centers the image, I whouldn't expect that to change.

I do pan the two overheads (condensers) fairly hard left and right

[snellular5]

what about trying a 57 on the bottom of the snare instead

[Dani Pace]

Originally Posted by snellular5

what about trying a 57 on the bottom of the snare instead

And, depending on the mic placement and angle, you can also pick up some of the attack from the bass drum with an under snare placement. Keep the pan pretty much in the center for this mic, pan the overheads about 60-70%.