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In what order

do you put EQ, compressor and Gate on your inserts?
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sure, if i think it needs gating, equalization, and compression. typically, my order is Gate -> EQ -> Compressor.

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Corrective EQ first almost always. You don't want (whatever you might be correcting) to trigger a gate or to affect the gain going to a compressor (generally).

After that, it gets weird - If you're using the compressor "as a compressor" you'd probably want it right after the EQ and gate it last. Otherwise, the gate will cut off all the gain to the compressor prematurely.

People still use gates?

Anyway, it can depend on what you're gating to some extent.
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FixEQ --> Comp --> PolishingEQ --> (Reverb)

FixEQ to remove the honkers that compression would otherwise bring out, then compress, then gentle EQ (if necessary) to polish what's left. Then, if desired, reverb last.

I almost never use gates, personally. Don't see much need for them in today's world of digital editing.

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I'm just trying to quiet amp noise with it.

am I worrying too much about amp noise?

I voted for you ghettojon
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you sould look for an alternative method of reducing amp noise other then applying effects.

Effects are for enhancement - not for masking or solving problems
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To get rid of amp noise you can automate your guitar tracks to turn down or mute the volume when you're not playing. It's very tedious, but it helps you get in the habit of automating which IMO sounds better than gating.

Gates can come in handy for distorted guitar on industrial and dance tracks, where it's used more for flavor.
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How bad is the amp noise?
Is it the same through different instruments?'

Placement maybe an issue.
The instrument itself maybe suspect as well.


I guess we need more input.
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I'm just trying to quiet amp noise with it.

am I worrying too much about amp noise?
EQ the signal first - Does it make the noise better or worse?

Better - Gate post EQ.

Worse - Gate pre EQ.
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To get rid of amp noise you can automate your guitar tracks to turn down or mute the volume when you're not playing. It's very tedious, but it helps you get in the habit of automating which IMO sounds better than gating.



Gates can come in handy for distorted guitar on industrial and dance tracks, where it's used more for flavor.
I just delete all that stuff in between

that's fine right?
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How bad is the amp noise?
Is it the same through different instruments?'

Placement maybe an issue.
The instrument itself maybe suspect as well.


I guess we need more input.
DD
my guitar and bass are cheap and old

I need to get new ones

it is the same through the two different basses I have tried (my cheap one and one my friend built himself) so I don't know
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Like they have said before, do your gating and corrective EQing first. As for EQ and compression, it depends on the use. Someone asked Dave Pensado about the order of EQ and Compression, here was his response.

1st ask if you wanna EQ the compressor, or compress the EQ. Think about this for a minute. Say you have a fat lo-endy kik. You don't want all that 60-80 triggering the compressor. So compress it first to bring out the knock, and EQ the lo end back in. On a guitar you might want to EQ it to get all the strings to sound, or to bring out a certain frequency, then compress it a tad to keep it in a certain dynamic range, or to bring out the attack. Remember, if you put the EQ 1st, then you have to reset the compressor everytime you make an EQ change. But always remember, there are no rules, just what sounds good to you. Experiment.
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do you put EQ, compressor and Gate on your inserts?
1. Compressor
2. EQ
3. Gate
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