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Question About Ribbon Mics

Hey everybody, great site and forums with alot of great answers and info.
Does anyone know if a ribbon mic is affected by the position it hangs? I use my Cad Trion 7000 in an upright position, but I did hang it upside down once, and it seemed to have a fuller sound. I know there are two different sounds produced by the front and back sides, but this mic was placed using the front side at all times.
Is there an explanation, or do you think it's nonsense?
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Unless the ribbon is sagging, I suspect it's probably in your head. That said, if hanging it upside down caused a significant change in angle, you might be hitting the mic more or less off-axis than before. Either that or it's one of those situations where hanging it upside down causes the singer to raise his/her chin, thus opening his/her airway and producing a fuller, rounder tone to begin with.
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Either that or it's one of those situations where hanging it upside down causes the singer to raise his/her chin, thus opening his/her airway and producing a fuller, rounder tone to begin with.
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Hi,

Sorry this has nothing to do with ribbon mics. I'm responding to the idea that mic placement can change a singers stance and improve their vocals.

When running sound for live music this is a trick I learned a long time ago. If you're having trouble getting enough vocals in the house mix turn the singer's monitor down.

If the monitor is too loud the singer may be backing away from the mic or singing softer to get the right band sound on stage. By turning the monitor down you are forcing the singer to sing louder. And thus improving the house mix.

On the same principle if in the studio you feel that a singer isn't opening up enough maybe they've got too much vocals in their headphone mix.

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Hi,

Sorry this has nothing to do with ribbon mics. I'm responding to the idea that mic placement can change a singers stance and improve their vocals.

When running sound for live music this is a trick I learned a long time ago. If you're having trouble getting enough vocals in the house mix turn the singer's monitor down.

If the monitor is too loud the singer may be backing away from the mic or singing softer to get the right band sound on stage. By turning the monitor down you are forcing the singer to sing louder. And thus improving the house mix.

On the same principle if in the studio you feel that a singer isn't opening up enough maybe they've got too much vocals in their headphone mix.

Thanks,

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Thats exactly what was happening when I posted the ACM-200 FET ribbon demo on you tube.
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Hi,

Sorry this has nothing to do with ribbon mics. I'm responding to the idea that mic placement can change a singers stance and improve their vocals.

When running sound for live music this is a trick I learned a long time ago. If you're having trouble getting enough vocals in the house mix turn the singer's monitor down.

If the monitor is too loud the singer may be backing away from the mic or singing softer to get the right band sound on stage. By turning the monitor down you are forcing the singer to sing louder. And thus improving the house mix.

On the same principle if in the studio you feel that a singer isn't opening up enough maybe they've got too much vocals in their headphone mix.

Thanks,

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Yeah, it's off topic--but who cares. Great post!
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Thats exactly what was happening when I posted the ACM-200 FET ribbon demo on you tube.
What I meant was she was too close to the mic (at first).
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