Which mixer?

[getuhgrip]

I've seen where some folks around here aren't to fond of Behringer mixers but haven't really said why. I bought a used 1602 with no maual and think I'm going to go on and but something new. Looking through the offerings on ebay I've seen a few that seem impressive (to me anyway). One is a behringer MX1804 which appears to have some built in FX. I saw a digital Tascam TM-D1000 for about the same money. So...what's the problem with Behringer and what would be the advantage of a digital unit? I'm using a Darla with Ntrack and I don't record more than one track at a time. BTW...I'm going to try to slide into a mixer for around three bills. Thanks

[Blue Bear Sound]

I've said "why" many, many times - so has MisterQCue.... "...use the Search, Luke..."

Bruce

[Gidge]

If you are not recording more than one track at a time, I see no reason whatsoever to waste money on a mixer, especially the ones you listed....they are crap....

What instruments are you recording and with what mics and do you have a preamp?...you may be better off just getting a decent single channel or stereo preamp....

[tubedude]

Go for a fat preamp. A good one. Make your next step a good converter, and then you're damn near done, as far as your one-track-at-a-time but I want it to sound good self is concerned. Ebay has an Aphex 107 (nice)with about 3 hours left to bid for around $150 right now.
Paul

[Gidge]

http://homerecording.com/bbs/showthr...4&pagenumber=1

Go to this thread, second page, to lunatics comments on the DMP2...If you could score one of these, at $80 for two channels you will be getting off like a bandit...I have one myself and believe me they smoke the Behringer and Tascam mixer's preamps....They sound better than Mackies to me....Cyan Jaguar said he found it sounded as good or better than his $400 Joe Meek.....jump on it....

[getuhgrip]

O.K...my best mics thus far is a smason r11. I'm looking for either a couple of NT1's or SM57's on ebay. The only reason I grabbed the Behringer was to put multiple mic's on the drums. But given my 12X12 studio I'm considering triggering my acoustic drums straight into mixer or Darla as there's no reasonable way to "tame" the room. I could try two mics into this tube preamp you guys are talking about and see how that works.
Thanks...

[Gidge]

Ok, you ARE recording more than one track at a time.....but with Darla you only have two inputs...if you have more than 2 mics youll have to submix down to 2 tracks, and during mixing you wont have individual control over the tracks....Im not sure you have the ideal setup for recording drums.....

[Gidge]

also, I dont know too many people that like a NT1 for micing drums....

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/sh...113?pid=273153

These mics could work for you...the mxl1000's without the ball as overheads, the Fox on the kick, and if needed, your samson on the snare....

[getuhgrip]

There's a reason for it saying "newbie" under my handle! And now, I'll prove it again! I've been micing toms, snare, bass and cymbals with 4 mics. They all go into the mixer so I can adjust (not very accurately) individual levels. Now, is that recording more than one track or is it simply recording the signal from 4 mic's into 1 track. Good Grief..now I'm all &%$@ed up! If you think these mic's for $149 are worth the gama rays it takes to paint their image on my monitor, I'm ordering them today! Do you recommend anything for vocals and micing an amp?

[Gidge]

You could probably mic vocals and an amp with those Marshall mics....close mic either with the Fox and then stereo mic from a distance with the 1000's thru the behringer...just BE CAREFUL how close you get the 1000's to the amp.....

Also, technically you can get it on two tracks...during recording thru the Behringer, pan anything you want on one track left and everything you want on the second track right...then take the two outputs of the mixer to the two inputs of the Darla....

Before you buy anything right away, explore all your options....

With those mics to record drums, mic them as my earlier post said, pan the two overheads hard left and right on the mixer, the kick and snare dead center and record into the two inputs of Darla and set N-Track to record a stereo track...your drum track will be in stereo on 1 track....

[RWhite]

I think that what several of these responses imply, but maybe do not come right out and say, is that you need to make some decisions about what you want to DO before you can decide what you want to BUY. Not to mention setting a budget on what you can afford.

You say that you will be micing a drum kit. Will you be recording anything else with it - like maybe a bass guitar? Are you going to be recording a whole band in one shot? Will you ever be recording live performances, or just basement / studio recording?

If you will be using several mics at one time a mixer is pretty much mandatory. If a mixer is called for, how much $$$ you have and how many inputs you will need will point you towards a mixer that is right for you.

[getuhgrip]

"One man rock band" in the basement forever: guitar, bass, drums, vocals and anything else I can find that makes noise! One track at a time. I'm sure I'll eventually research midi, but for now I'll be mic'ing amps and experiment with running straight into a mixer. In another post I said I'd like to find a mixer for around $300. No deep pockets here. Also, I ask again...what is the benefit of a digital mixer like Tascam's TDM1000? If it's just being able to "snap-shot" settings I'll look at something else.
-Thanks

[LongWaveStudio]

get a yamaha o1v if you can afford it

[vox]

The main reason that I don't recommend Behringer mixers is that I have seen far too many of them break down for no apparent reason.