Cheap autotune pedal for live use

[dialtone]

I am looking to get a autotune for my voice live, not to correct the pitch, but to get the daft punk and cher (belive in love) effect. Antares Autotune is pretty expensive, anything thats not a plug in I can use for live that is effective? Thanks

[dialtone]

I have been considering V-vocal and TC makes a $800 one, but Id like to go cheaper, I am only using it for this one effect patch.

[Randy Yell]

TC Helicon Voice Correct pedal at Musician's Friend for $250 is the cheapest I've seen.

[dialtone]

I looked up reviews and they were great, do you know if it will do the Cher thing live though or is it weak in that dept? Thanks

[Randy Yell]

No clue, I've never used it but I saw it in the Musician's Friend catalogue and it's the cheapest that I've seen.

[Paj]

Is the effect you're referring to on the Cher tune actually an effect you've already used with an efx processor? I thought that the Cher vocal was done with a vocoder. Does anybody know for sure?

Paj
8^?

[Adam P]

Look for an Electrix Warp Factory vocoder. They can usually be had fairly inexpensively, though they seem to have gone up some in the past few years.

[famous beagle]

Originally Posted by Paj

Is the effect you're referring to on the Cher tune actually an effect you've already used with an efx processor? I thought that the Cher vocal was done with a vocoder. Does anybody know for sure?

Paj
8^?

I thought it was an auto-tune effect, but just with an extreme setting so that it went right to the note and allowed for no human-ness. I'm not sure though, because I'm very much against autotune (as a means of pitch correction), so I have little to no experience with them.

[Adam P]

I think it would have a pretty similar effect, either way. A vocoder is just going to have the formant signal (the voice, in this instance) modulating the carrier sound, which is going to be whatever note you might be playing, usually on a synth pad or something like that.

Listen to the song "Hunted By A Freak" by Mogwai...plenty of vocoder-ness going on. Is that the sound you're looking for?

[Paj]

I'm sure that you could end up with something very similar with a square-wave envelope but controlling it would require some tweaking.

If you're convinced it's an applied autotune artifact, you might want to check out the parameters available for the autotune functions in the new DigiTech Vocalist Live Pro. The manual (downloadable from DigiTech), does mention that certain pitch-correction parameters can cause a "robotic" shift in pitch.

Paj
8^)

[Paj]

I guess it wasn't vocaoder. Here's some more info on the effect. I think that a lot of this info will apply to other vocal processors with the auto-tune effect.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/docum...rime=LiveSound

Paj
8^)

[AASteveo]

It's a sad day when people strive for the "autotune sound"

The cher sound isn't a vocoder. The autotune setting for 'retune speed' is just set to the fastest speed setting available, and then the 'humanize' setting is set to zero. So whenever her voice gets even remotely close to the next interval, it immediately snaps to the perfect pitch.

[Farview]

The hardware version of Autotune had a midi input that allows you to play notes on the keyboard and make what ever you send into it come out the melody that you play on the keyboard.

BTW, there isn't much difference between autotune and a vocorder. They both work on the same principal. The main difference is autotune samples the input and modulates it instead of using an oscillator.

The guys that mixed the Cher song said that they used a vocorder.