yamaha su 700

[tj jr.]

what does anybody know about the su 700 sampler??its made by yamaha.any info would be helpful.
thankxx
tj

[muzicman8739]

tj,

I have the su-700, and it's an okay sampler. It has onbaords effects ( most of which suck) and other features. I am pretty much indifferent about this sampler, but if I had the choice to buy it again, I would not. It has three types of samples, loops, composed loops (these are loops which you make by hitting the pad in some rhythm during a measure and it loops that rhythm) and free. This can be annoying at times. The sequencer is not the greatest, because it doesn't allow step recording. I use it along side of an RM1x, I prefer that sequencer better because it's better than the su-700's. I only use the 700 as a drum module/machine. Oh yeah, the loops can be sliced so that you can speed up or slow down samples without having the pitch change, but don't get it twisted. When you slow samples down you can hear the difference. Speeding them up is actually not that bad.

The effects are okay, but they sound really metallic, at least on drums they do. You can edit the effects, high/low pass filters, reverb time/length. It's an okay sampler, but I am new to the world of samplers. It can not be used like rackmounts, and when you control it with MIDI, every sample that is to be controlled must be routed to a midi channel, and not a note. As I said before, I am indifferent about this sampler. Some days I hate it and others I love it. I know it's tempting to try to get one, because it's kind of cheap, but it's cheap for a reason. If you can I would say save up and get the mpc 2000, or look into rack mount samplers. I hope this helped


peace,
da muzicman

[tj jr.]

yeah,, thanx,, Im looking into a rack mount sampler. im thinking of gettin the emu esi2000. Im still not sure if it does what i want easily,, ive got too many questionz.

thanx
tj

[tj jr.]

you say that you use the yamaha s700 as a drum machine.. what do you mean? i think thats what i want to do.
i want to be able to take samples and use them just like i use the rm1x. to make beats. I dont want to be limited to the sounds in my rm1x. I want to use new drum sounds and snares etc... And when i get bored with those sounds,, i want to get more new sounds. Can the s700 use the same sample disks from the akais and emus ?? im getting a scsi external rom drive from ebay. I have a zoom rack effects procesor already. .. so im not too worried about the effects. can you quantize the same on the s700 as you can the rm1x??.
thankx in advance.

[muzicman8739]

To use it as a drum machine this is what I do. Being on a limited budget, I just sample drums from whatever I can get my hands on. I don't think the su700 can use the sample discs from e-mu or akai, because it only reads .aiff files (or something like that). So I just use audio cds and build drum kits. (you can also sample from the rm1x and beef up the drums) But anyway, what you do is create your drum part on the rm1x, go to job-track-divide drum track, use whatever kit on the RM. After you do that go to set-up and make it so your drum tracks are sending MIDI out on various channels, but not to the tone generator. After you do this assign the samples that you have in the SU to recieve on the respective channels. once you do this save the setup and if you want to free up those channels on the rm1x record the drum part into the su. To do this sync up the two machines, by going the MIDI sync option on the su and choosing external. Hit record on the su and then hit play on the rm1x and you're set. But play around with it though, that's the best way to learn.

peace,
da muzicman

[BigBee]

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[BigBee]

I own a SU700 too. This machine is truly a jack of all trades master of none. Like muzicman8739 and many other SU700 owners if I could do it again then probably it would have been the MPC2000XL. But the strong point of the SU700 is that you can really do it on one machine only. Use the effects wisely and maybe don't use some effects at all. Mixing is very easy all within one machine try that on a MPC. With this machine you are made to think very efficiently because you can run out of options very quickly. Right now the SU700 is hooked up to my PC (a P166 !). So now at least I can trigger/control 16 samples from my Logic sequencer with more variety. Editting is very easy this way. Goodbye dial wheel !

Gotta go now,
Cheers,
BigBee

[endlosrille]

i use the su700 to play live.

I'm playing loop-oriented techno music and the su700 is the best machine for loop-oriented techno.
i like the su700 more than the mpc200 because there are neither knobs on the desk of the mpc nor functions like LFO, cutoff, EQ etc.

cheers,
endlosrille