trouble with doubling up

[youngflo]

When I go to double up my verses my lyrics don't match up how do I get them to match up?

I'm using cool edit pro 2.0

[RAMI]

Originally Posted by youngflo

When I go to double up my verses my lyrics don't match up how do I get them to match up?

I'm using cool edit pro 2.0

Practice.......!

[youngflo]

theres no way to move the vocals around so that they even up

[RAMI]

Originally Posted by youngflo

theres no way to move the vocals around so that they even up

Everyone's looking for a quick fix, nobody wants to put any work into something they SUPPOSEDLY love. Fucking sad.

Anyway, to answer your question, unless the whole track is off by exactly the same amount all the way through, that probably won't help.

I'm telling you...It sounds like I'm trying to be sarcastic. But seriously....PRACTICE!!!!

[ikon]

unless your talking about (example) you record track 1 [vocal] but when you record track 2 [double] its off beat and you feel you are doubling on que perfectly....well in cool edit you can do 1 of 3 things....go into setting and find the drift for recordings and check that box and try it....if it dont work uncheck it and right underneith there is a option for syncing recording....check and try.....if it dont work try 3 check both and see how it works.......if none them work then maybe you really do need to practice =\

[ikon]

sorry for the many typos...i been awake for about 23 hours now

[RAMI]

Originally Posted by ikon

sorry for the many typos...i been awake for about 23 hours now

Don't worry about it....you just need to practice.

[youngflo]

i thought there was a way to move it around i do put in the work alot of my time is spent on this shit man

[RAMI]

Originally Posted by youngflo

i thought there was a way to move it around i do put in the work alot of my time is spent on this shit man

Awesome. Good luck with that.

[Daisy]

If you double-click where it says "Peter Quistgard" at the top of the session... then that will activate an "auto sync" feature, that should sync your vocals for you automatically so they match up.

If that doesn't work, then come back and let us know, so we can walk you through it.

[NL5]

Originally Posted by youngflo

i thought there was a way to move it around i do put in the work alot of my time is spent on this shit man

You can manually chop them up and move them around. It's a LOT of work to do a full track, and often ends up sounding unnatural. I do this all the time for a word or two, but never a whole track.

Frankly, RAMI is right. If you have no sense of timing, it's gonna be a battle. Really listen to the music and try and be with the music - it will make your tracks sound WAY better in the long run.

[punkrocker]

melodyne. i know. cheating. whatever.

[NL5]

Originally Posted by punkrocker

melodyne. i know. cheating. whatever.

To create fake harmonies or to time align the tracks? I've never used Melodyne.

Cheating is fine, but not everything can be fixed that way.......

[RAMI]

Originally Posted by punkrocker

melodyne. i know. cheating. whatever.

He's talking about syncing up RYTHMICALLY. Melodyne doesn't do that, as far as I know.

[Rokket]

...uh.... maybe it's a latency issue with his pc...

[NL5]

Originally Posted by RAMI

He's talking about syncing up RYTHMICALLY. Melodyne doesn't do that, as far as I know.

You know, now that I read the original post again, he says his lyrics don't match up?!?!?!?!?

Maybe he needs to sing the right lyrics? Not much you can do about wrong lyrics.

[Epicureous]

Maybe he means he's singing a round and one of the little bastards on the other side of the fire is singing it wrong (or not sync'd up)...

[Elton Bear]

Originally Posted by youngflo

When I go to double up my verses my lyrics don't match up

Well do whatever you do in the chorus to make them match

[youngflo]

no what i mean is when i record my main vocals its fine when i go to double up the lines in the second recording track my double up lyrics dont match the main vocals

[NL5]

Originally Posted by youngflo

no what i mean is when i record my main vocals its fine when i go to double up the lines in the second recording track my double up lyrics dont match the main vocals

Just sing the right lyrics and you should be good to go.

[youngflo]

i do but whenever i play it back there off it adds an echo

[NL5]

Originally Posted by youngflo

i do but whenever i play it back there off it adds an echo

Originally Posted by NL5

You can manually chop them up and move them around. It's a LOT of work to do a full track, and often ends up sounding unnatural. I do this all the time for a word or two, but never a whole track.

Frankly, RAMI is right. If you have no sense of timing, it's gonna be a battle. Really listen to the music and try and be with the music - it will make your tracks sound WAY better in the long run.

There is your answer then.

[elly-d]

hehe very funny thread,

but seriously it looks like you have some timing issues, probably tech based rather than performance.

is your first vocal a little off time with the music? if so it is a latency issue.

if it is in, and only your double track out, i am guessing that you are monitoring you vocal though you DAW (as you record the double track vox) and it is delayed throwing you off a little in performance.

or is it a lyrics thing? i can't tell, post the lyrics :P

only joking man.

[legionserial]

Originally Posted by youngflo

i do but whenever i play it back there off it adds an echo

It's either you not singing in fully sync with the first track, or as previously mentioned, a latency issue. For the former, sing in sync with the first track, then you should be fine. If you have trouble with that, then practice. If you still have trouble, then I guess you could try singing a harmony instead rather than the same notes... It might be a little more forgiving...but not much. You could track your overdubs line by line I suppose. That way you only have to redo the bad parts. It might be cheating slightly but it's better than trying to use a computer to fix flaws in the performance. Are you singing or rapping?

For the latter, try reducing your buffer size. This might cause other issues however. Like pops and clicks. If you disable all the tracks you can do without while tracking and then do that it might be ok.

That said, personally I've worked with some real shitty latency before (*ahem* creative cards *ahem*) and not had problems with things being noticably out of sync afterwards.

What soundcard are you using?

[SonicAlbert]

If it is an echo that is of a consistent time factor, then slide the doubled track around until the lyrics line up.

However, if the doubled track goes in and out of lining up, then you either need to chop it up in little bits and slide them around individually, or re-record the track so that it better matches the original.