what do YOU think of this setup?!

[scottlones!]

okay well iv been doing a lot of research and i think ive come to the conclusion of what i want i plan on upgrading from this slowly.

-Sennheiser e609 silver-
aparently it is great for recording a wide range of guitar/bass sounds and i would also use it as one overhead for the drums.

-Shure SM57-
another alright mic for recording guitars, i think id probally have both the 57 and e609 placed in front of the cabs and this could also be used as an overhead, and probally as a vocal mic for now until i can afford another.

-Samson C01 x2 Samson Q-toms x2 Samson Q-snare Samson Q-kick bass mic Co2h mini x2-
okay set of mics by the sound of it, but i may just replace the sounds after with drumagog if i need to so its not too big a deal for now.

-Alesis 8USB mixer-
8 inputs, its usb as well so according to the guy at guitar center i can have a seperate track for each drum mic so i can run drumagog on each one. it comes with cubase but i have a copy of nuendo a friend gave me :]

whaddya reckon?

[lostindundee]

Hi there

The SM57 is a good buy. It will be usable on things like vocals, acoustic guitar, saxaphone, cab micing and is also regarded as a first choice of many pros for micing a snare drum.

LiD

[Dani Vondoom]

With a usb mixer you'll only be able to record two tracks at a time on your computer, that is a mix of all 8 tracks into a stereo tack or 2 mono tracks.
With a firewire mixer you would have all 8 tracks separately.

[SouthSIDE Glen]

I think that if you're just starting out with this - which it sounds like you are - that you should just nix that inexpensive Samson drum package which won't sound that great anyway, and skip the idea altogether of so many mics on the drum kit to start out with. You can grow into more mics as you upgrade and improve your skills, if you want, but it's hard enough to get good drum tracking with 3 or 4 mics of good quality, let alone 10 mics of dubious quality.

Start out with a 57 on the snare, a Senneheiser e602 or AKG D112 on the kick, and a couple of halfway decent cardioids for your overheads and work from there. (as for Drumagog...you asked for our opinions; my opinion is that if your drummer actually knows how to play the drums, you won't need it. If he doesn't, then there isn't much need to record him yet, is there? Once you can get a great sound with that stuff, you'll be ready to complicate matters by adding more mics to the rest of the kit of you want to.

As far as the Cubase vs. Nuendo, stick with the Cubase. They both have the same audio engine in them anyway, Nuendo just includes a bunch of post-production features that you won't need, and you won't be stealing anything.

As far as the USB connection, what Dani says is true only if you hook the Multimix up to an older USB 1.1 port. If you hook it up to USB 2.0, it will send all channel strips to the computer, not just the two channels.

G.

[elementary]

How much is that all costing?

I think the sm57 and e609 are quite similar in their applications, if I were you, I would drop the Samsons and the e609 and buy the sm57 and use it on snare, guitar cabs and various other bits and pieces, a large diapraghm dynamic that will be good on kick, vocals and bass cabs (Heil PR40, EV RE20, Shure SM7) and a pair of small diapraghm condensers for overheads and acoustic instruments (Oktava mk012, studio projects c4, rode nt5, AKG perception 150 - haven't tried the AKGs yet, but worth researching them, they're cheap).
If you can't get a good sound from your toms with just the overheads, then maybe buy a couple of mega cheap karaoke mics, put them on your toms and use them to trigger drumagog.

Its better to buy a few decent mics than a lot of dodgy ones, you'll only end up replacing them and spending more.

A decent kick/vocal mic, a decent snare mic and some decent overheads will serve you well for whatever you want to record.

Just my 2 cents

[Dani Vondoom]

Originally Posted by SouthSIDE Glen

As far as the USB connection, what Dani says is true only if you hook the Multimix up to an older USB 1.1 port. If you hook it up to USB 2.0, it will send all channel strips to the computer, not just the two channels.G.

I did not know this. You learn something new every day! If that's the case now then why are the fire wire mixers still so much more expensive?

[scottlones!]

wooo my laptop is in fact usb 2.0 so um, how much am i talking here because i sillyly thought i was a clever chappy with that mic bargain and using the 57 and 609 as everheads saving me money and spening like $600, but then can you give me prices for that setup you were on about! i do in fact have about 8 plastic sony mics and three sennheiser live mics so your saying i could use them as toms?

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