Home Recording

Go Back   Home Recording > Equipment Forums > Guitars and Basses


        

                                
                                10/30 - [video] Demo Roland TD-20SX
Reply    Audiofanzine Guitar Guitar News Guitar Medias Guitar Tests Guitar Articles Guitar User Reviews Guitar Classifieds Ads
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-25-2008
attila_strat attila_strat is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: minneapolis
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
attila_strat is on a distinguished road
Question Foamy guitar

Hi. So the body and neck of my guitar has some foam from the case stuck to it.
It wasn't in the case for that long, maybe a month or two, and when i took it out it had black foam stuck to it. Maybe the heat, I don't know. Anyways, if anyone has any advice on how to get it off properly, please let me know.
Thanks much!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-25-2008
muttley600's Avatar
muttley600 muttley600 is offline
The Central Scrutinizer
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: You ain't seen me! Right?!
Age: 49
Posts: 2,724
Rep Power: 5514130
muttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by attila_strat View Post
Hi. So the body and neck of my guitar has some foam from the case stuck to it.
It wasn't in the case for that long, maybe a month or two, and when i took it out it had black foam stuck to it. Maybe the heat, I don't know. Anyways, if anyone has any advice on how to get it off properly, please let me know.
Thanks much!
We need more info.

What guitar?
Where is the foam on the guitar?
Is this foam or felt from the inside of the case?

A picture would be helpful.

Seriously more info is essential here.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheelema View Post
Guess I was wrong!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-25-2008
attila_strat attila_strat is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: minneapolis
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
attila_strat is on a distinguished road
thanks for responding.
the guitar is a custom one, the only mark being "ronnie lee" in an inlay on the last fret. it pretty much has the shape of an explorer. the foam(or felt, i guess) is from the inside of a hard case, and is stuck to the guitar all around the edge of the body and a little on the edge of the head. there is also a bit at the base of the neck.
thanks
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-26-2008
Milnoque's Avatar
Milnoque Milnoque is online now
Resident Curmudgeon
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rural Hall, NC
Age: 53
Posts: 531
Rep Power: 1127812
Milnoque has a reputation beyond reputeMilnoque has a reputation beyond reputeMilnoque has a reputation beyond reputeMilnoque has a reputation beyond reputeMilnoque has a reputation beyond reputeMilnoque has a reputation beyond reputeMilnoque has a reputation beyond reputeMilnoque has a reputation beyond reputeMilnoque has a reputation beyond reputeMilnoque has a reputation beyond reputeMilnoque has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by attila_strat View Post
It wasn't in the case for that long, maybe a month or two, and when i took it out it had black foam stuck to it.
I'm going to guess that this is a new guitar, and that the builder failed to let the finish (whatever it is) fully cure before it was put in the case. If that's the case it would be his responsibility to correct the damage to the finish.

If getting the builder to address the problem is out of the question, the first thing I would try would be a damp cloth and elbow grease. Perhaps you'll be lucky and that will be enough. Second I would try a very fise polishing compound like Maguire's #7. Make sure the product you use has no silicon in it. Use a soft cloth and work a small area. Hopefully the material is not deeply imbedded. If this works you can do all the affected areas and then go to a finer compound to restore the gloss.
__________________
"History would be an excellent thing if only it were true."

- Leo Tolstoy
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-26-2008
muttley600's Avatar
muttley600 muttley600 is offline
The Central Scrutinizer
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: You ain't seen me! Right?!
Age: 49
Posts: 2,724
Rep Power: 5514130
muttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by attila_strat View Post
thanks for responding.
the guitar is a custom one, the only mark being "ronnie lee" in an inlay on the last fret. it pretty much has the shape of an explorer. the foam(or felt, i guess) is from the inside of a hard case, and is stuck to the guitar all around the edge of the body and a little on the edge of the head. there is also a bit at the base of the neck.
thanks
The reason I ask is because what the finish is will help you a lot in deciding how to put it right. Milnogue is right in that your first port of call should be the maker/manufacturer. A problem like that shouldn't happen unless something has been done against the makers instruction. Whatever, he/they will be able to tell you what the finish is and give advice. This is one of those situations where it is next to impossible to give any decent advice without seeing the extent of the damage.

The finish has softened for some reason and you have fibres or foam stuck in it or on it. The only other possible cause is that the foam has softened and it is stuck to the guitar finish which would be better from your point of view because it would mean the guitar finish is OK.

You need to find out which of the above has happened and the first step in doing that is to find out what finish is on the guitar. Contact the maker if you can or get an experienced finisher of luthier to look it over for you. I'd caution against trying to remove it yourself yet, attacking finishes can be very problematic, especially if it is already flawed.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheelema View Post
Guess I was wrong!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-26-2008
ggunn ggunn is offline
Crystal Flavolian
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, TX, USA
Posts: 2,708
Rep Power: 661716
ggunn has a reputation beyond reputeggunn has a reputation beyond reputeggunn has a reputation beyond reputeggunn has a reputation beyond reputeggunn has a reputation beyond reputeggunn has a reputation beyond reputeggunn has a reputation beyond reputeggunn has a reputation beyond reputeggunn has a reputation beyond reputeggunn has a reputation beyond reputeggunn has a reputation beyond repute
I'd also ask how old the case is. Some types of foam oxidize over the years and turn into this obnoxious gunk that sticks to everything and is a real PITA to get off. What it turns into may attack and soften the finish on a guitar.
__________________
Gordon in Austin

http://www.crystalflavola.com
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-30-2008
attila_strat attila_strat is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: minneapolis
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
attila_strat is on a distinguished road
hi. thanks for all the responses.
the guitar is old, so i can't contact the manufacturer. i believe you guys are correct in that the foam from the case(which is old too), has oxidized and thus sticks to the guitar. i don't know what the finish is on it, if that still matters. i could post some pictures if it'd still be helpful.
thanks
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-31-2008
g blaze g blaze is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
g blaze is on a distinguished road
i agree w/ the responses the guitar is old
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-31-2008
solo2racr's Avatar
solo2racr solo2racr is offline
SUCK, SQUEEZE, BANG, BLOW
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mtns. of WNC
Age: 46
Posts: 282
Rep Power: 38455
solo2racr has a reputation beyond reputesolo2racr has a reputation beyond reputesolo2racr has a reputation beyond reputesolo2racr has a reputation beyond reputesolo2racr has a reputation beyond reputesolo2racr has a reputation beyond reputesolo2racr has a reputation beyond reputesolo2racr has a reputation beyond reputesolo2racr has a reputation beyond reputesolo2racr has a reputation beyond reputesolo2racr has a reputation beyond repute
The finish on it is more than likely nitrocellulose lacquer. The foam will likely be petroleum base. In an unseen area on the body( like under a control cover) try mineral spirits or lighter fluid (like for a Zippo lighter) to be sure it won't harm the finish. STAY AWAY from lacquer thinner or acetone. Denatured alcohol may work too. Again, test in a place that won't be seen although, denatured alcohol should be safe.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-31-2008
muttley600's Avatar
muttley600 muttley600 is offline
The Central Scrutinizer
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: You ain't seen me! Right?!
Age: 49
Posts: 2,724
Rep Power: 5514130
muttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond reputemuttley600 has a reputation beyond repute
Sorry, missed the posts in this thread as I've been away al weekend.

If I was you I'd start by trying to remove it gently using the least aggressive options you have. Start with a little warm soapy water just damp a clean rag and have a go in a small area. If that doesn't touch it. The zippo fluid or naphtha option is likely to be the best option. Test it on a hidden area first to make sure it doesn't attack the finish. I'd stay clear of the denatured alcohol for now. If naphtha doesn't touch it alcohol probably wont but there are a few finishes that will react to alcohol but not naphtha. Start slowly.

Another option is to get some of the foam off the case and see what will dissolves or soften it. Report back then. You can then test in a hidden spot on the guitar to see if it attacks the finish or we can recommend a substitute that may be less aggressive..

Any chance of a picture?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheelema View Post
Guess I was wrong!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-01-2008
oDD's Avatar
oDD oDD is offline
Problem to your solution
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Vermont
Age: 30
Posts: 73
Rep Power: 5151
oDD has a reputation beyond reputeoDD has a reputation beyond reputeoDD has a reputation beyond reputeoDD has a reputation beyond reputeoDD has a reputation beyond reputeoDD has a reputation beyond reputeoDD has a reputation beyond reputeoDD has a reputation beyond reputeoDD has a reputation beyond reputeoDD has a reputation beyond reputeoDD has a reputation beyond repute
There is a product called Guitar Honey that is a combo of oils used primarily on the fretboard - but, on the label it also claims to easily remove stickers, gunk, etc from your guitar w/ out harming the finish. I've never used it for that purpose so I cant comment on it but it might be worth checking out.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Google
 

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Private Guitar Lessons monkie Guitars and Basses 22 01-10-2008 07:44
New guitar maker hixmix Guitars and Basses 23 01-07-2006 02:20
Audio card for guitar for live act on stage !!!!! sputnik V Guitars and Basses 0 10-05-2005 04:39
List of equipment for sale Dashley Free Ads for Music / Recording Equipment 19 06-07-2005 18:54
Music - please rip apart Greenshoe MP3 Mixing Clinic 20 07-29-2003 00:49


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:42.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995-2008 Audiofanzine except where noted. All Rights Reserved.