Acoustic Guitar Wanking

[cmhansen]

Thought I'd try some more acoustic guitar stuff since my rock thing went over like a lead balloon the last time.

Kind of a around the world, world music piece. Hence the title. Though I think there's much more Spanish influenced roots then anything else.

Three guitar tracks run through the Delta 66 Omni, using MXl 67's in as close a XY configuration as you can get with LDC's. Taylor 710.

80 Days

Thanks for any listens and comments.

Is that sped up? Or are you really playing that fast?

Sounds good on my end...really really fast though. Almost like you uploaded an MP3 at the wrong rate and it's playing faster than it should. I like it though, Spanish/classical sounding.

[aidan_m]

really like tyhat lovely tones and sweet playing..

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[ido1957]

Yes it sounds too fast. There's a link in Soundclick band maintenance that has to do with speed issues. It sounds great like Danny said, just fast.....

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[cmhansen]

Thanks for the comments about the playing guys.

Sorry to have to break it to you, but yeah, that's the right speed you're listening too. They're just 32nd notes at about 94bpm. Or something like that. I wrote it that way to give a different feel then my fingerpicking stuff. Kind of a Al Di Meola feel if you will.

I have read about the issues at Soundclick, but it is also uploaded at Songplanet and it sounds exactly the same. I encode all my songs the same, so I don't believe there is a problem there. At least the time is in sync with song in the Sonar software. I'll check again, but I do believe it's correct.

[XLR]

That's pretty impressive sounding. Those V67s sound good.

[cmhansen]

Thanks Tim. Coming from the master it's quite the compliment.

I did have to boost the high end a little and cut around 200hz to get it to this point. I find that the 67's are just a little to dark for my taste. So I bought some of those Naiant mics and will be trying those soon. Have a few more of these kind of pieces to record.

[cmhansen]

To those who have responded and I haven't given reputation too, I find I need to spread it around a little more. I'll get to you as soon as I can.

Thanks for all the responses.

[rayc]

BLOODY fast - reminds me of the leadlines over 8 Miles High.
Nice clean sound, you've managed to keep the string noise reasonable too - which is a feat at those speeds.
Have you heard the intro to Al Stewart's Roads To Moscow? This sounds like a fast version of that - it needs to segue into something that the strummed chords suggest.
Cool bananas!

[g0dmoney]

i wish i could play an acoustic like this.

[1tonio]

Nice work Chris. Definately got the Al Di style on this one-nice and intimate sound.
Maybe seperating the field of leads would have made it more dramatic?-the left lead is stronger by the panning, and the other is up the middle. Although that could make it-Strunz/Farah-ish if taken too far.
JMO of course.

Other tunes sound great too.

T

[drossfile]

love that rich and full, yet bright and glassy guitar tone. very smooth sound.

understatement ahead: excellent playing.

i did notice what sounded like meter issues, though. maybe i'm just having a hard time finding the meter because there's no percussion, but the first minute seems kinda awkward, timing-wise.

sounds beautiful though. really tonally pleasing and well-balanced.

i really wish i could play like that. hell, i'd be ecstatic if i was HALF as good!

[cmhansen]

Thanks for the listens comments, suggestions and criticisms.

rayc - Have not heard the song by Al Stewart. I'll have to check that out. As for the cleanness of the guitar playing, I have improved quite a bit in keeping the string noise down. I even had a song up here when I first joined to ask how to clean up the string squeaks. Guess I'm doing something right.

gOdmoney - Just a lot of practice. A lot of frustration along the way too.

1tonio - I thought of maybe changing up the leads a little more to separate them. Tried to keep the rhythm part more in the middle to help with the two outer guitar lead parts. Higher lead to the right and accompanying lead to the left. Thanks for taking a listen to some of the other things.

drossfile - Well, to be quite honest the meter is right, it's just that the guitar playing is off a little bit here and there in the beginning. The last little bit of the song is actually a higher bpm then the rest of the song. Seemed to need that extra push at the end.

[ido1957]

Pretty good speed on that playing then. I can't even think that fast lol....
I like the panning as it is, fairy tight L/R/Center. Overall I think you've got a pretty fine recording here...

[cmhansen]

Thanks ido.

I like how the panning is too. I actually tried it a little further out but it seemed to lose some of the cohesiveness of a tight knit group.

As for the speed, I guess that's all relative.

And I thought I could play fast.

I think it's the EQ on the bottom/high end that made it sound sped up at first. I really like the mix of classical and Spanish...

How long have you been playing guitar?

[eyema_believer]

Makes me hungry... for some good ethnic food... what kind, I'm not quite sure!
Good job!

~Shawn

[rayc]

The Al Stewart album is Past, Present & Future most famous for the Nostrodamus track though this track is EXCELLENT. Mind you the whole album is ace (bought it in 1976 & upgraded to CD about three years ago).

[Greg_L]

This is why I don't even pick up my acoustic guitar. I could never play something like this, so why bother?

It sounds very good. I love the speedy stuff in contrast to the usual folky finger-picking that you usually hear in acoustical stuff. Very nice!

[DavidK]

Very cool, very impressive. Nice recording too. My only suggestion would be around 2:05, where you play parallel 5ths. Dont. Same around 2:50, I guess I paid attention in theory class after all. You have this spanishy vibe going on, then all of a sudden it sounds Chinese.

A splendid listen, very impressive.

[true-eurt]

Hmmmm....my my....I think there is possibly a Zorro2 around this place...

What I really liked about the piece, is the eclectic feel you gave it, by intermingling the passion of several different ethnics.

It starts out at a Hungarian Gypsy campfire...then around 1:00 it hits the Nina, the Pinta and Santa Maria sailing to the middle east with a wonderful sensual Arabic feel, then around 2:20 I could almost hear the breaking of plates, as an overwhelming craving for Gyros came over me...to 3:14 where Lugosi meets Zorro meets Shariff meets Zorba..!!!

I loved the Flash Gorden speed of your fingers at 3:51....

[SteveE9C6]

I like the performance and the overall feel of the piece. The atonal harmony at around 2:08 adds a charming hint of the far east.
I would have eq'd this a bit different however. I feel that there is a bit of mid to high end hype that makes the guitar sound thinner than it actually sounds. Of course, some of this is due to the V67 midrange bump. What are you doing for compression on this?

All in all... good job!

[cmhansen]

Originally Posted by danny.guitar

And I thought I could play fast.

I think it's the EQ on the bottom/high end that made it sound sped up at first. I really like the mix of classical and Spanish...

How long have you been playing guitar?

Thanks Danny.

Oh, about 32 years I guess. Not this particular style of guitar though. Early on I was in a duo group that played the normal acoustic cover things. We did a couple of things by Al Di Meola at that time. Then solo fingerpicking stuff when the group broke up. Then starting doing the tapping guitar stuff about a year ago.

Actually just got back into this style of guitar about a year ago also.

[cmhansen]

eyema_believer - Thanks for the listen.

rayc - Might take a look at youtube or his site, if he has one. Might even go buy the CD if I can find it.

[cmhansen]

Originally Posted by Greg_L

This is why I don't even pick up my acoustic guitar. I could never play something like this, so why bother?

It sounds very good. I love the speedy stuff in contrast to the usual folky finger-picking that you usually hear in acoustical stuff. Very nice!

Thanks Greg.

I think you would be able to do this kind of thing. It's not that much different then fast electric guitar playing. At least I don't find it that way.

Well, to be quite honest, I'm one of those fingerpicking guys, though I'm not sure you would call it folksy sounding. I wouldn't really know how to describe my fingerstyle guitar playing.