drum waves through your console

[jmorris]

This is related to other thread I have. If I post some drum wave file, 8 tracks, would someone, or a few even better of you be willing to load them into you DAW and send them through your anaolg console, 8 tracks not stereo, to stereo mix? I'd love to hear a few different consoles and eq's ( to your taste) and check out the sonic differences. Maybe a Ghost, Allen and Heath etc.

[NL5]

Originally Posted by jmorris

This is related to other thread I have. If I post some drum wave file, 8 tracks, would someone, or a few even better of you be willing to load them into you DAW and send them through your anaolg console, 8 tracks not stereo, to stereo mix? I'd love to hear a few different consoles and eq's ( to your taste) and check out the sonic differences. Maybe a Ghost, Allen and Heath etc.

I'd do it. Do you want the "full drum treatment", or just summing and eq?

[Farview]

I'll do it, just for giggles.

[jmorris]

Originally Posted by NL5

I'd do it. Do you want the "full drum treatment", or just summing and eq?

I'd say just summing and then with eq. if thats not too much trouble. That would be great!
Jim

[jmorris]

Originally Posted by Farview

I'll do it, just for giggles.

Fairview, that would be great! Im just not happy with my sound from just the "box" and would love to hear from console. Like prior, just summing, then with eq. to your taste if not too much trouble.

[NL5]

Originally Posted by jmorris

Fairview, that would be great! Im just not happy with my sound from just the "box" and would love to hear from console. Like prior, just summing, then with eq. to your taste if not too much trouble.

I think you will find that summing is pretty far down the list of what makes a great drum track....

[jmorris]

Originally Posted by NL5

I think you will find that summing is pretty far down the list of what makes a great drum track....

Exactly, and that's what I want to hear. The drum for the recording are fair, no great sound there but my interest is what ,if any, different consoles will make with end product. No eq. on the tracks will tell the most I have to think but I'd love to a/b it with eq. I understand the many items in the recording chain and how they effect overall end sound but I think this will be an interesting test.

The track were recorded through Mackie Onyx preamps in bands practice room.
kick- D6 and 4033 ambient
snare -sm57
toms-e604
overheads- sure 6.1) or 4.1 cant remember model, sd condensor
hi hat- sm81
recorded into laptop Sonar 5

[Farview]

How about I do mixing through the board and my own ITB mix. People send me their drums to mix all the time, I rarely go through the board.

[Robert D]

If I can make a suggestion.....

The summing test is good, and an eq to taste test has some value; but with no controls on the eq eval, ther's no way to judge where the more better came from, EQ or AE. So my suggestion is that you first eq the drums as you think best, note your EQ centers, Qs, and cut/boosts, and add a third test to, as close as possible, replicate those curves on the different consoles. No, they won't be the same. But they will give you at least a pippen to granny smith comparison instead of apples to oranges. Just a thought.......

[jmorris]

http://www.livebandrecordings.com/WaveFiles.html

here is a link to mp3 of a couple of tunes. I recorded it last Saturday as I said before in practice room/basememt. I've have slways struggled with a question of my recordings. I strive for that real studio feel but to my ears mostly they come off as good demos. This is a ruff mix I did for the band,they have yet to come over and "officially" help mix it. It just seems a bit dull but it's the feel of all of my stuff. Maybe it's a matter of my own head and never really liking the stuff I do...don't know. This is why I'm thinking of running mixes through console.

[Farview]

There is nothing wrong with the way that sounds. There is some distortion on the vocals, but you may have done that on purpose. Mastering would probably take care of your concerns.

[jmorris]

Fairview, well the distortion/ lack of perectly recorded vocal is due to me
( having known better) not properly setting up for a scratch vocal.It ended up being the keeper. ALWAYS THINK EVERY TAKE WILL BE A KEEPER!
I posted another tune, slow John Mayer song Gravity.

[Farview]

Nothing wrong with that one either.

[jmorris]

I posted the same songs once more but for these I ran entire mix through 2 channels of a Mackie Onyx console with Perkins eqs. from my mobile rig. I"think" it brings them to life a bit more so the console thing may have merit. I cant get this type of eq. sound from the box..at least I cant!