Group Vocals??

[KyleAtGalaxy]

Does anyone know how or what plugin to use to get the sound of a whole crowd of people singing. I mean besides multi tracking my own voice or the voices of twenty people. I hear it in a lot of songs and it sounds so sweet. I've tried to duplicate it a few times but with only my voice. It doesn't sound the same and it's very fatiguing.

[bennychico11]

Originally Posted by KyleAtGalaxy

Does anyone know how or what plugin to use to get the sound of a whole crowd of people singing. I mean besides multi tracking my own voice or the voices of twenty people. I hear it in a lot of songs and it sounds so sweet. I've tried to duplicate it a few times but with only my voice. It doesn't sound the same and it's very fatiguing.

hire 20 people to sing.


Really. What you are hearing on lots of songs is a choir singing. Short of that, mess around with pitch shifting and chorus plugins. It's hard to get YOUR voice to sound like something other than you. It's always going to have that certain tonality to it.

[KyleAtGalaxy]

Yeah I'll definitly have to experiment with pitch shifting. I was just hoping for a magic plug in that could generate something like a crowd. Thanks for the tips

[mwthompson]

Originally Posted by KyleAtGalaxy

Yeah I'll definitly have to experiment with pitch shifting. I was just hoping for a magic plug in that could generate something like a crowd. Thanks for the tips

You can copy a single voice track and move it up or down up to +/- 4 cents with a pitch shifter multiple times, nudge each track forward or backward a few milliseconds on the timeline, and vary the panning of each track.

So, if you did this using random settings three or four times per harmony part, you can turn a 3 part harmony into a 9 - 12 person choir. Add some reverb to make it sound a little bigger.

I've tried this before, and it works ok for my purposes. Definitely not as good as a real choir, but with music in the background the average person can't tell.

[NYMorningstar]

Originally Posted by KyleAtGalaxy

Yeah I'll definitly have to experiment with pitch shifting. I was just hoping for a magic plug in that could generate something like a crowd. Thanks for the tips

You should experiment with getting 20 people together to sing if you really want the sound of a whole crowd of people singing. Garbage in = garbage out

[KyleAtGalaxy]

Thanks for the tip. I would hire twenty people but my room just isn't that big (joke!) The pitch shifting trick does sound like it could work. Thanks Dr. House

[KyleAtGalaxy]

I'll try to post an example of the results i desire

[Yonce N Mild]

Originally Posted by KyleAtGalaxy

I've tried to duplicate it a few times but with only my voice. It doesn't sound the same and it's very fatiguing.

I've tried that too. Very difficult.

I've tried duplicating/pitch shifting and it just sounded like the same person pitch-shifted. I think it's because the timbre of the voice is still the same.

I think there are plugins out there that can alter the timbre of a vocal, but you'd want something subtle. I've never tried one myself but there might be one out there that works.

[mwthompson]

Originally Posted by danny.guitar

I think there are plugins out there that can alter the timbre of a vocal, but you'd want something subtle. I've never tried one myself but there might be one out there that works.

I've played with a plugin by Steinberg called "Voice Machine Processor", but it was fair at best. Maybe it could work if there were many other vocal tracks to cover up the "fakeness" of the timbre change. Oddly enough, there is an effect in Garageband that actually would change the timbre pretty well as long as you used it subtly.

[mwthompson]

Originally Posted by mwthompson

I've played with a plugin by Steinberg called "Voice Machine Processor", but it was fair at best. Maybe it could work if there were many other vocal tracks to cover up the "fakeness" of the timbre change. Oddly enough, there is an effect in Garageband that actually would change the timbre pretty well as long as you used it subtly.

I found this page after a Google search, YMMV:

http://www.filedudes.com/files/Voice.Changer.html

I've never tried any of these, but I'm going to try this weekend.

[KyleAtGalaxy]

Thanks House, Let me know how it works for you. If you go to http://www.purevolume.com/alltimelow and listen to song six feet under the stars, you can kinda hear what i'm shooting for at about 3:00 into the song. Not the best example but you might get the idea.

[TerraMortim]

don't have to hire anyone...just get a case of beer and a bunch of friends...throw an omnidirectional mic or two in the room and let them have at it.

[VSpaceBoy]

Have you asked anyone on the board here if they'd wanna help out? I bet you'd get plenty of ppl to collaberate on it for you.