16 tracks/inputs interface?

[poopchute]

Hello,
I want to be able to dump 16 tracks of audio into my computer for use in ProTools. Is there some type of M-Audio interface that will do 16 inputs at a time and comes with ProTools? Thanks

[bennychico11]

http://protoolsforum.com/ProToolsLE1.html

none of the M-Powered versions come with Pro Tools though.
You could also always just get a smaller interface and record two-4 at a time. Cheaper that way.

[midniteindicia]

yeah definitely way cheaper to do parts at a time. Even if you already have Pro Tools, the price is mighty hefty to get something up to 16 tracks at a time. I'm not an expert on m-audio interfaces, but I haven't seen one that will take 16 tracks at a time. Digidesign stuff is the same way. I know the 002s will take 8, maybe you could sync them up? not sure.

[bennychico11]

Originally Posted by midniteindicia

yeah definitely way cheaper to do parts at a time. Even if you already have Pro Tools, the price is mighty hefty to get something up to 16 tracks at a time. I'm not an expert on m-audio interfaces, but I haven't seen one that will take 16 tracks at a time. Digidesign stuff is the same way. I know the 002s will take 8, maybe you could sync them up? not sure.

003/R, 002/R, 001, Firewire 1814, Project Mix and Profire Lightbridge.

[lucky13]

M-Audio interfaces do not include Pro Tools M-Powered, it must be purchased seperately. Digidesign interfaces on the other hand do come with Pro Tools LE.

[poopchute]

I guess I didnt mean that the M-audio interfaces came WITH ProTools...Just that they'll work with a copy of ProTools.
bennychico11...
The reason I need 16 inputs is so that I can do everything all at once. If I do 4 or even 8 at a time until I get to my 16 inputs Ill have a mess on my hands trying to line up all the tracks that will all be slightly out of time with each other...and they wont all be the same amount out of time. So thats totally impractical. I already have a digi-002 factory but it only has 8 inputs. So I could already do it but Id have 2 groups of 8 tracks to dump one after the other.
I honestly would rather get a Delta 1010 or possibly a version of the delta that has 16 inputs (if it exists) and get rid of my digi-002. The ONLY reason I even consider keeping ProTools is for editing and effects. Definalty not for actuall real time recording. Everything sounds like crap and doesn't blend properly.
And dont say I need to learn how to record better. Ive already tried a bunch of songs on my 8-track analog reel to reel that I did before on digi and the analog was SOooo much easier and sounds 100times more real and vibrant...

[MessianicDreams]

Originally Posted by poopchute

I already have a digi-002 factory but it only has 8 inputs.

I'm pretty sure you'll find the 002 has 18 iinputs dude

8 analogue
8 ADAT
2 S/PDIF

[lucky13]

Originally Posted by poopchute

I guess I didnt mean that the M-audio interfaces came WITH ProTools...Just that they'll work with a copy of ProTools.
bennychico11...
The reason I need 16 inputs is so that I can do everything all at once. If I do 4 or even 8 at a time until I get to my 16 inputs Ill have a mess on my hands trying to line up all the tracks that will all be slightly out of time with each other...and they wont all be the same amount out of time. So thats totally impractical. I already have a digi-002 factory but it only has 8 inputs. So I could already do it but Id have 2 groups of 8 tracks to dump one after the other.
I honestly would rather get a Delta 1010 or possibly a version of the delta that has 16 inputs (if it exists) and get rid of my digi-002. The ONLY reason I even consider keeping ProTools is for editing and effects. Definalty not for actuall real time recording. Everything sounds like crap and doesn't blend properly.
And dont say I need to learn how to record better. Ive already tried a bunch of songs on my 8-track analog reel to reel that I did before on digi and the analog was SOooo much easier and sounds 100times more real and vibrant...

The problem is that Pro Tools LE (the version you got with your 002) is not compatible with M-Audio interfaces. You have to use PT M-Powered with M-Audio interfaces. So if you want to keep with the LE software you already have MBox2, 002, and 003 are pretty much your only options.

[bennychico11]

Originally Posted by poopchute

I guess I didnt mean that the M-audio interfaces came WITH ProTools...Just that they'll work with a copy of ProTools.
bennychico11...
The reason I need 16 inputs is so that I can do everything all at once. If I do 4 or even 8 at a time until I get to my 16 inputs Ill have a mess on my hands trying to line up all the tracks that will all be slightly out of time with each other...and they wont all be the same amount out of time. So thats totally impractical. I already have a digi-002 factory but it only has 8 inputs. So I could already do it but Id have 2 groups of 8 tracks to dump one after the other.
I honestly would rather get a Delta 1010 or possibly a version of the delta that has 16 inputs (if it exists) and get rid of my digi-002. The ONLY reason I even consider keeping ProTools is for editing and effects. Definalty not for actuall real time recording. Everything sounds like crap and doesn't blend properly.
And dont say I need to learn how to record better. Ive already tried a bunch of songs on my 8-track analog reel to reel that I did before on digi and the analog was SOooo much easier and sounds 100times more real and vibrant...

like Mess. said...you have 18 simult. inputs.

Of course the timing would be off...however, it's easy to just slip them back into time. I've done it many many times. Set up a sync pop somewhere at the beginning of the song on every track and it will make it even easier to do so.

[MadAudio]

I use two Echo Layla 24/96 interfaces that are sync'ed with a BNC cable and record into Vegas 5. To date the most inputs I've used at once has been 13, but I had no problems capturing those at 24/44.1.

[MessianicDreams]

Dude...instead of spending cash on getting another interface and buying another license, just go buy a Behringer ADA8000. It'll set you back $200-something dollars, it'll expand you current 002r and not make it redundant, and its actually a semi-decent AD/DA - better quality than most Behri products!

[poopchute]

Originally Posted by MessianicDreams

I'm pretty sure you'll find the 002 has 18 iinputs dude

8 analogue
8 ADAT
2 S/PDIF

I see the 8 analog inputs on the back...I see the 1 S/PDIF in and 1 S/PDIF out but I dont see any ADAT inputs. And Im not actually sure what they are anyway. But I dont see anything on the back that could have another 8 inputs unless somehow I can use the 8 outputs as ins?

[MessianicDreams]

Originally Posted by poopchute

I see the 8 analog inputs on the back...I see the 1 S/PDIF in and 1 S/PDIF out but I dont see any ADAT inputs. And Im not actually sure what they are anyway. But I dont see anything on the back that could have another 8 inputs unless somehow I can use the 8 outputs as ins?

Dude..the optical inputs on it..............between the S/PDIF and MIDI i/o?






I'm dumbfounded that you spend the money on it but don't even know it has digital i/o, or even were to find them?!?!



Anyways, That Behri unit i suggested would work great for you...it'll double the number of analogue i/o you'll have, for only $200. Its ADAT outputs are also the optical outs :P

[poopchute]

So what do I need in order to plug 8 seperate inputs into the 1 optical input?

[MessianicDreams]

Originally Posted by poopchute

So what do I need in order to plug 8 seperate inputs into the 1 optical input?

u need something which will take 8 inputs and output optical ADAT...like.....*drum roll*


the Behri ADA8000!!!!! TA-DAAA


now, go read about digital audio, wordclock, wordlength and sample rate, ADAT, optical connections!!




EDIT: I'm starting to wonder if we've got another Walters on our hands...that was that guy's name right?

[poopchute]

MessianicDreams...There's no need to be condescending.
When you originally posted that the digi has 18 inputs you were wrong. It might have the capability to have more than 8 with these optical inputs, but the digi-002 needs something added on to it in order to get up to 18 inputs, which you added in 2nd and 3rd posts.
To everyone who helped thanks

[bennychico11]

Originally Posted by poopchute

MessianicDreams...There's no need to be condescending.
When you originally posted that the digi has 18 inputs you were wrong. It might have the capability to have more than 8 with these optical inputs, but the digi-002 needs something added on to it in order to get up to 18 inputs, which you added in 2nd and 3rd posts.
To everyone who helped thanks

no, he was right. Understand what an "input" is. An input is just a point where signal can be sent into the device. There is a total of 18 inputs on the 002....or 18 points that signal can be sent into. 8 analog, 2 S/PDIF and 8 ADAT optical. Not all audio is analog. Some people work with gear (like the ADA8000 or numerous digital mixers) that send a digital ADAT optical signal out....you would plug this output into the 002's ADAT optical input.

[heroics321]

Messianic could have worded it better, the dude came here for help, he's got to learn somewhere. Poopchute, read the manual, get acquainted with your gear. Buy an Behringer ADA8000 and two toslink lightpipe cables. Plug the optical output on the ADA into the optical input on the 002, then the output from the 002 to the input on the ADA. Make sure to set the sync switch on the rear of the ADA to "slave".

[MessianicDreams]

Originally Posted by poopchute

MessianicDreams...There's no need to be condescending.

are you kidding me?


you obviously put ZERO effort of your own into finding any information of your own - you didn't even know how many fucking inputs your gear has. And, when I told you that you had the sufficient inputs, you didn't even try to understand anything but what i was saying. Had you taken 30secs to google "ADAT Digidesign 002" you would've gotten all the information required.

But no, you decide to not doing a thing and wait to be spoon fed information. I don't mind helping people out, don't get me wrong, but it really gets on my nerves when people come here and obviously are WAY too lazy to do any reading/research/investigation of their own into how their gears works and expects us to do all the leg work for them.

Originally Posted by poopchute

When you originally posted that the digi has 18 inputs you were wrong.

WRONG. Of course it has 18 inputs Perhaps you need to go read about what an input is? Maybe you should read the manual on your own gear? I don't own a 002 but I seem to know more about your gear than you do - what does that tell you?





Now maybe I didn't need to word things quite the way I had - I certainly didn't try to say anything mean. But you've got to understand its annoying when you're trying to help someone but its blatantly obvious that they're not even trying to help themselves.




poopchute, good luck with your set up. i hope it works out ok now that you know how to do it.

[poopchute]

I guess I should have said I wanted to know how to hook up 16 "ANALOG" inputs to the digi-002. Maybe that would have made what I was asking and trying to do a little clearer.
The way the digi-002 console is, it only has 8 ANALOG inputs. 1 ADAT/Optical and 1 S/PDIF input. I still dont understand how Im gonna get 16 seperate ANALOG inputs into the back of the digi by itself. So without buying some type of optical interface to split another 8 ANALOG inputs out of the 1 Digital/Optical input it still only has 8 Inputs that I can use.
And YES you were being condescending in your posts. The fact that you basically deny it tells me what type of person you are. Im sorry your daddy didn't love you. But there's no need to take it out on random people on the net. I feel sorry for you and especially anyone who accidentally crosses your path. I'm really sorry that I didnt know how to plug 8 inputs into 1 input. That is why I posted my question in the first place.
If you had said right away in your first post that the Digi has the "capability" to hook up another 8 inputs thru the 1 optical input on the back but you'll need some type of "add on" to do that, I doubt I would have been soo confused...

[charger]

The Digi 002 has the capability to add 8 more ANALOG inputs through the optical digital input.

To do this, buy something like the Behringer AD8000, and two ADAT cables. Then you'll have 8 more ANALOG inputs. I know this has already been explained and mentioned several times in this thread... this really is your best affordable solution.

Note that it's pretty common nowadays for gear to have 16 or more inputs, only 8 of which are analog. ADAT inputs are on just about everything now, and everyone refers to them as "inputs"--whether they are digital or analog.

[MessianicDreams]

Originally Posted by poopchute

The way the digi-002 console is, it only has ... 1 ADAT/Optical and 1 S/PDIF input.

it has 8 channels ADAT i/o and 2 channels S/PDIF i/o.

Originally Posted by poopchute

I still dont understand how Im gonna get 16 seperate ANALOG inputs into the back of the digi by itself.

you can't the 002 has a max of 8 analogue i/o

Originally Posted by poopchute

So without buying some type of optical interface to split another 8 ANALOG inputs out of the 1 Digital/Optical input it still only has 8 Inputs that I can use.

exactly - you were talking about spending about $600 on a Delta 1010 PLUS whatever an M-Powered licence costs and with my solution i just saved you $400, yet your complaining about having to buy another piece of gear?

Originally Posted by poopchute

And YES you were being condescending in your posts. The fact that you basically deny it tells me what type of person you are. Im sorry your daddy didn't love you. But there's no need to take it out on random people on the net. I feel sorry for you and especially anyone who accidentally crosses your path. I'm really sorry that I didnt know how to plug 8 inputs into 1 input. That is why I posted my question in the first place.

dude, you're so far off the mark i'm actually laughing. its the internet - grow some thicker skin. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings by making you look stupid. As a side note, look thru my posts and the judge who i am

Originally Posted by poopchute

If you had said right away in your first post that the Digi has the "capability" to hook up another 8 inputs thru the 1 optical input on the back but you'll need some type of "add on" to do that, I doubt I would have been soo confused...

Optical ADAT almost always carries 8 channels. I stated in my very first post you had 8 channels i/o thru ADAT on your 002. You obviously haven't a clue about optical ADAT - which is why when i mentioned it you should've taken 30secs to do a google search, or read the manual that came with 002.

[wp001]

Originally Posted by poopchute

Hello,
I want to be able to dump 16 tracks of audio into my computer for use in ProTools. Is there some type of M-Audio interface that will do 16 inputs at a time and comes with ProTools? Thanks

m-audio dosnt make a 16 input interface so what i have done is i bought 2 M-audio DElta 1010LT interfaces, it comes with a protools demo but not the real thing u have to buy it by its self.

[lunkhead]

Poopshoot:
You CAN have 16 inputs with M-powered pro tools, all 24bit/96kHz. I have 2 M-audio Delta 1010 interfaces (one 1010 and one 1010LT), and have no problem, it's a pleasant surprise since PT says it does not support multiple interfaces. Actually had the 1010 for several years before buying into M-powered PT, it's an excellent professional interface.
A Delta 1010 rackmount can be bought for $399 these days, and the 1010LT (no rack, unbalanced RCA inputs) is about half that. So depending on what quality you want you can get 16 great inputs for $400 to $800.

So there ya go.

Chris

[lunkhead]

one more thing, you will need a mixer with decent preamps as well (I have a small mackie).
Unfortunately M-audio does not make an 8-channel interface with preamps like the MOTU or Presonus... yet. Let's hope someday.
The Projectmix I/O has 8 channels with adequate preamps i've read.