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My Band was on FOX's Next Great American Band

Hey Guys,

I don't post here often, although I do lurk daily. I used to post a bunch back in the early days of the board.

Anyway, for any of the old timers here, I thought you guys might like to know that my band was on FOX's "Next Great American Band" show Friday night. They only showed us for a minute or so; you can watch the main clip here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=CHGeZ6QweDU

We were also on Entertainment Tonight for about 5 seconds, and had our picture in the New York Daily and The Washington Post. So we got a lot of press, although we're still trying to figure out if it's going to translate into album sales (our album is on iTunes and CDBaby).

Hopefully we can keep the momentum going on this and get some better gigs, sell some more CDs, get more MySpace friends, etc. But at the very least we got a free trip to Vegas and were on national TV!

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When are you doing a tour of shopping malls and wal-mart in store meet n greets?

come on..please please please ..don't play into those stupid american idol type shows lol...they're all part of the further raping of music.. The exposure is kind of good I guess, but the type of people who watch that shit aren't REALLY interested in music anyway... (12 year old girls, middle aged housewives, rich preppy suburbanite teens) It's like fashion to them...no different than what they choose to (*sigh*) wear. When you go on a show like that, they put you on because they want everyone in their audience demographic to laugh at you. Hahaha look at them, they don't soud like sum 41 (or whatever set of monkeys out raping the idea of punk for a few bucks these days)...I mean at least your song on there was funny.. the type of assinine bands in the mainstream these days more than ever, are funny without trying to be.. they're funny because they're absolutely pathetic, and big label money is the ONLY thing keeping them famous..you take away all that money being thrown at everyone, and they'd be reduced to a bunch of drug addict has-beens... or maybe they'll do their own reality show, as the expert panel of fuckups, untill they finally kill themselves or end up in rehab.

Congrats on having whatever faggots are on the "pannel of has-beens..uhh I mean experts" hate you..at least you weren't well recieved (that would be so gay), If I was ever forced into going on one of those shows, I'd kill myself if any of those brainless nimrods liked my music.

So yeah, congrats on getting your faces in some major media, but don't expect it really to do much for you. Remember, those type of half-human consumerites that watch that shit have an attention span of about at long as it takes me to write "half-human consumerites". Then, they're on to the next bit of fashion they are being told will make them more than they really are.

I have to admit though, the video was pretty funny. Where'd you get the horse head?

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Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious that we didn't take the whole thing seriously. I mean, would anyone on this board really give a shit if Johnny Rzeznik, Sheila E, and some Australian dude didn't like your music? They're old and out of touch. You can see us smiling and laughing while they're trying to rip into us. A lot of the bands cried (or were about to cry) when they got booted off, but we refused to let them get to us.

Basically we did it for the press and for the free all-expenses paid trip to Vegas! Plus, we're able to use it as leverage to book bigger/better shows around town, and we actually did meet a lot of good, cool bands (none of whom were picked, and most of whom didn't even end up on the show!). Hopefully we can trade gigs with those bands in the future if we ever decide to do a mini-tour somewhere.

The horse head is one that we made out of cardboard. That schtick wasn't invented for the FOX show; we dress up like that every time we play.

If you liked our performance on the show, check out our submission video:
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i can't believe it

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haha yeah you were pretty funny.. Don't get me wrong..Wasn't passing judgement just was ranting on my ratred of those meaningless hacks that do their own reality shows as a last ditch effort before they cut their wrists open with razors... The biggest thing you'd get from it would be name recognition in a way.. but most of the people watching that shit aren't into music anyway..

always good to mooch a free vacation tho. Did you take a beating in the casinos?
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I lost about $30, but we got a ton of comped drinks once the bartenders found out we were in a band!

The resort they put us up in was awesome. It was called Montelago Resort, and was on Lake Las Vegas. We had two suites, and they also paid for our plane tickets and kept bringing us food every day. It wasn't a vacation we would've been able to afford otherwise.
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Sounds like a really awesome experience.

I don't want to sound offensive, but what you're asking is kind of like, say, someone who went on American Idol, and got rejected, asking how to use that to help their publicity...

I guess if you're bad, but good because you're bad, it can help (ie Willilam Hung), otherwise, I don't know. I don't think you're bad, I thought it was funny. But I'm just not sure saying "Hey, we've been turned down on Next Great American Band" is going to help.

But hey, at least you got on the show and got a really awesome vacation, I'd be happy with that. And I like the "My Three Sons" song on your myspace page.

Best of luck.
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I think getting rejected gives us some street cred, at least in our music scene. We're kind of the antithesis of what they're looking for on that show. It's almost like we played a big prank on them. They spent over $6000 (my estimation) to fly us up there, put us up, feed us, only to reject us. That's funny.

But, yeah, if anyone has any ideas on how to further use this to our advantage, I'm all ears!

Danny.Guitar: glad you liked "My Three Sons". We have a few more like that on the album. It alternates between 80s rock, old-school country, and Beach Boys/Beatles stuff. You can hear more clips at http://www.cdbaby.com/tdmfs
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Your submission video seems a lot like another Baltimore band's promo video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcXyVseiKb0
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come on..please please please ..don't play into those stupid american idol type shows lol...they're all part of the further raping of music.. The exposure is kind of good I guess, but the type of people who watch that shit aren't REALLY interested in music anyway... (12 year old girls, middle aged housewives, rich preppy suburbanite teens) It's like fashion to them...no different than what they choose to (*sigh*) wear. When you go on a show like that, they put you on because they want everyone in their audience demographic to laugh at you. Hahaha look at them, they don't soud like sum 41 (or whatever set of monkeys out raping the idea of punk for a few bucks these days)...I mean at least your song on there was funny.. the type of assinine bands in the mainstream these days more than ever, are funny without trying to be.. they're funny because they're absolutely pathetic, and big label money is the ONLY thing keeping them famous..you take away all that money being thrown at everyone, and they'd be reduced to a bunch of drug addict has-beens... or maybe they'll do their own reality show, as the expert panel of fuckups, untill they finally kill themselves or end up in rehab.

Congrats on having whatever faggots are on the "pannel of has-beens..uhh I mean experts" hate you..at least you weren't well recieved (that would be so gay), If I was ever forced into going on one of those shows, I'd kill myself if any of those brainless nimrods liked my music.

So yeah, congrats on getting your faces in some major media, but don't expect it really to do much for you. Remember, those type of half-human consumerites that watch that shit have an attention span of about at long as it takes me to write "half-human consumerites". Then, they're on to the next bit of fashion they are being told will make them more than they really are.
blah blah blah blah blah. who cares if the viewers aren't hardcore music aficiandos? going on the show(especially if you win, or at least get pretty far) will likely give you more exposure, which will mean more fans, more shows, and more albums sold. it might seem like "selling out" to some people...but guess what? if someone wants to have a CAREER as a musician, it requires SELLING ALBUMS, TICKETS, AND MERCHANDISE!! not to mention that it's also not "selling out" if you're going up there with your own band and your own instruments, and are playing your own music that you yourself wrote.

and guess what else? bands don't care who is buying their shit, or for what reason. as long as people put a few bucks in their pocket so that they can keep on paying the bills, they're going to be grateful. of course it's great to have people like your music for the "right" reasons...but everyobdy in your audience is going to interpret the music in a different way, so there's no point in even trying to draw that moral line.

truth be told, if i liked/played mainstream music, and was in a band that had their shit together, i would've gone on the show as well. if nothing else, at least you get a free vacation to vegas out of the deal.
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hahaha are you kidding?

Nobody watching a show like that would be interested in something that wasn't allready mainstream in nature. They're more of a punk/humourous project..the kind of shit that's fun to go to a hole in the wall bar and get drunk to with friends, not what a bunch of tv execs are interested in telling the children to buy... Them losing would generate more fans than winning, to be honest.

It has nothing to do with selling out... I was teasing the OP a bit just because it's really really funny. I do stand steadfast that it's shows like that which cheapen music. I'd love to see the end of this so called "reality" tv executive's wet dream (so cheap and easy to make compared to anything that takes half a brain to produce)

No one ever had a really substantial carreer in music started from something like that, even the ones that are chosen to win... you get the odd pop star american idol winner, but do you call those carreers? They're over before they've started...America moves on before they can even get fixated on it. They might get a bargain bin movie that'll make a bunch of money for a week, or get 10 year old girls to buy their album for a year, then becoming has-beens like the morons who judged the show they were on. Real careers are built from years of hard work, building a core fanbase (that will follow you no matter how much press you get) and enough of a history, and back catalog to keep you at least selling some records in times of hardship (every career has many of them).

Sure we don't care, but don't kid yourself. If you don't sound allready like the sum 41s of the world, or the Good charlettes... you will not get sales from this sort of thing, unless you try your best to be the worst thing possible that everyone laughs at what a joke you are (a.la william hung) and peopel want to buy your shit because they think it makes them witty (it's funny the ammount of people who entirely base their humour on everyone elses actions, instead of actually having a personality themselves). They were goofy, and all that, but it's not like they were singing ricky martin off key and out of breath in a thick foriegn accent while thrusting their arms around like a defective manufacturing robot,after saying how fucking awesome they are.

The reason I probably wouldn't is because I want to see people who produce those shows sent to concentration camps and given a very auchwitz like lifestyle, complete with them ultimately being put in gas chambers, while they're forced to watch their own shows on giant screens while they slowly die. All the has-been loser "expert panels" that are really cast just to be just like the origional set of has-been talentless hacks on american idol's "panel"...Not only do they make a shitty show, but they basically copy exactly the same show over and over and over just with very small differences (what are they fucking being paid for...not only is it copied from another show, but it was a stupid idea to begin with!)... next there will be america's next top televangelist, america's next top plumber, america's next top rapist... they would have to find the rapist versions of the expert panel... be sure to get someone from the UK or Austrialia for the prick... you know they probably could get ole mr. cowel to be on that show, as he no doubt gets his kicks as a date rapist anyway (doesn't anyone else get that vibe?)

Anyway, it isn't so much a matter of "right or wrong". It's kind of funny to bring a band like that to such a dumbfuck show and scam a free vacation from some lazy over paid talentless tv "producers" who should be asking for change on the street corner for a living... it's more a matter of, in reality, there will be not as much fame as a result as one might think... it's possible if you're really terrible.. but they weren't terrible enough to become famous off of being an idiot (like william hung). Funny to watch the video of it, and no doubt a perfect thing for their press kit (any self respecting band should wear being told they suck from those guys a big honour)

btw. hate to burst your bubble..those shows aren't really contests at all...it's all cast who's going to win beforehand..they let people try out to create rabid interest in the show by the public (wow these are my peers...i could even do this..kind of like with game shows back in the day), and also to generate some comic relief... shit like American idol and stuff like this have two sets of "auditions" one for the public (ones that will lose, and/or provide some "side splitting" rejected shows) and the private auditions through modeling/talent agencies (the ones who will either win or make it to the "finals") The "panel of judges" are usually people who's carreers are effectively over, who are quite out of touch with the times...the reason they take jobs like that is because it's a last ditch effort to revive, prolong their celebrety (without relying on their publisists to spread, on purpose, negative press in order to swipe up what money they can from dumb preteen girls who will pay for anything made by someone in the press.. kind of like Paris Hilton, and even Brittany Spears did in her heyday..she owned the copyright for the "spear brittany" shirts..and has returned to doing lately.) "reality tv" is no more real than CSI (which is quite the fuck inaccurate with ...umm...almost everything). It's basically the result of a Hollywood that has completely run out of ideas, and what new ideas do exist offer too large of a risk for them to be comfortable with it. So they decide to use cheap gear, stupid scripts, or none at all, pick up Z list actors/actresses that are desperate for anything (and willing to work for nothing/or almost nothing), rehashing the same exact show over and over with one word changed (I have this genius idea, why don't we do america's next top foot model.... the network will love it..I could be a tv producer if I sucked enough cock). It probably won't get you anywhere, and it's only worth doing for an interesting experience..so they had some fun time with a free vacation and got told they were terrible by the has-been trifecta from hell.. fine by me.. but you have to admit, tis fun to tease someone about.

So now I announce, I'll be on the next episode of americas next top medical school drop out..we'll be performing some fatal surgery mistakes this round, to see who can go on to intern under Dr. Jack Kevorkian, at his state of the art assisted suicide clinic.
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hahaha are you kidding?

Nobody watching a show like that would be interested in something that wasn't allready mainstream in nature. They're more of a punk/humourous project..the kind of shit that's fun to go to a hole in the wall bar and get drunk to with friends, not what a bunch of tv execs are interested in telling the children to buy... Them losing would generate more fans than winning, to be honest.

It has nothing to do with selling out... I was teasing the OP a bit just because it's really really funny. I do stand steadfast that it's shows like that which cheapen music. I'd love to see the end of this so called "reality" tv executive's wet dream (so cheap and easy to make compared to anything that takes half a brain to produce)

No one ever had a really substantial carreer in music started from something like that, even the ones that are chosen to win... you get the odd pop star american idol winner, but do you call those carreers? They're over before they've started...America moves on before they can even get fixated on it. They might get a bargain bin movie that'll make a bunch of money for a week, or get 10 year old girls to buy their album for a year, then becoming has-beens like the morons who judged the show they were on. Real careers are built from years of hard work, building a core fanbase (that will follow you no matter how much press you get) and enough of a history, and back catalog to keep you at least selling some records in times of hardship (every career has many of them).

Sure we don't care, but don't kid yourself. If you don't sound allready like the sum 41s of the world, or the Good charlettes... you will not get sales from this sort of thing, unless you try your best to be the worst thing possible that everyone laughs at what a joke you are (a.la william hung) and peopel want to buy your shit because they think it makes them witty (it's funny the ammount of people who entirely base their humour on everyone elses actions, instead of actually having a personality themselves). They were goofy, and all that, but it's not like they were singing ricky martin off key and out of breath in a thick foriegn accent while thrusting their arms around like a defective manufacturing robot,after saying how fucking awesome they are.

The reason I probably wouldn't is because I want to see people who produce those shows sent to concentration camps and given a very auchwitz like lifestyle, complete with them ultimately being put in gas chambers, while they're forced to watch their own shows on giant screens while they slowly die. All the has-been loser "expert panels" that are really cast just to be just like the origional set of has-been talentless hacks on american idol's "panel"...Not only do they make a shitty show, but they basically copy exactly the same show over and over and over just with very small differences (what are they fucking being paid for...not only is it copied from another show, but it was a stupid idea to begin with!)... next there will be america's next top televangelist, america's next top plumber, america's next top rapist... they would have to find the rapist versions of the expert panel... be sure to get someone from the UK or Austrialia for the prick... you know they probably could get ole mr. cowel to be on that show, as he no doubt gets his kicks as a date rapist anyway (doesn't anyone else get that vibe?)

Anyway, it isn't so much a matter of "right or wrong". It's kind of funny to bring a band like that to such a dumbfuck show and scam a free vacation from some lazy over paid talentless tv "producers" who should be asking for change on the street corner for a living... it's more a matter of, in reality, there will be not as much fame as a result as one might think... it's possible if you're really terrible.. but they weren't terrible enough to become famous off of being an idiot (like william hung). Funny to watch the video of it, and no doubt a perfect thing for their press kit (any self respecting band should wear being told they suck from those guys a big honour)

btw. hate to burst your bubble..those shows aren't really contests at all...it's all cast who's going to win beforehand..they let people try out to create rabid interest in the show by the public (wow these are my peers...i could even do this..kind of like with game shows back in the day), and also to generate some comic relief... shit like American idol and stuff like this have two sets of "auditions" one for the public (ones that will lose, and/or provide some "side splitting" rejected shows) and the private auditions through modeling/talent agencies (the ones who will either win or make it to the "finals") The "panel of judges" are usually people who's carreers are effectively over, who are quite out of touch with the times...the reason they take jobs like that is because it's a last ditch effort to revive, prolong their celebrety (without relying on their publisists to spread, on purpose, negative press in order to swipe up what money they can from dumb preteen girls who will pay for anything made by someone in the press.. kind of like Paris Hilton, and even Brittany Spears did in her heyday..she owned the copyright for the "spear brittany" shirts..and has returned to doing lately.) "reality tv" is no more real than CSI (which is quite the fuck inaccurate with ...umm...almost everything). It's basically the result of a Hollywood that has completely run out of ideas, and what new ideas do exist offer too large of a risk for them to be comfortable with it. So they decide to use cheap gear, stupid scripts, or none at all, pick up Z list actors/actresses that are desperate for anything (and willing to work for nothing/or almost nothing), rehashing the same exact show over and over with one word changed (I have this genius idea, why don't we do america's next top foot model.... the network will love it..I could be a tv producer if I sucked enough cock). It probably won't get you anywhere, and it's only worth doing for an interesting experience..so they had some fun time with a free vacation and got told they were terrible by the has-been trifecta from hell.. fine by me.. but you have to admit, tis fun to tease someone about.

So now I announce, I'll be on the next episode of americas next top medical school drop out..we'll be performing some fatal surgery mistakes this round, to see who can go on to intern under Dr. Jack Kevorkian, at his state of the art assisted suicide clinic.
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Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious that we didn't take the whole thing seriously. I mean, would anyone on this board really give a shit if Johnny Rzeznik, Sheila E, and some Australian dude didn't like your music? They're old and out of touch. You can see us smiling and laughing while they're trying to rip into us. A lot of the bands cried (or were about to cry) when they got booted off, but we refused to let them get to us.

Basically we did it for the press and for the free all-expenses paid trip to Vegas! Plus, we're able to use it as leverage to book bigger/better shows around town, and we actually did meet a lot of good, cool bands (none of whom were picked, and most of whom didn't even end up on the show!). Hopefully we can trade gigs with those bands in the future if we ever decide to do a mini-tour somewhere.

The horse head is one that we made out of cardboard. That schtick wasn't invented for the FOX show; we dress up like that every time we play.

If you liked our performance on the show, check out our submission video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qAf4wwuRNiQ

Thanks,
Ryan

Taht one was pretty fun....
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TerraMortim, I do agree with just about everything you said, aside from the concentration camp stuff

For this first round, where they picked the top 12 bands who would compete for the rest of the episodes, I think it was probably rigged as you said. There were a few times when the judges didn't seem to want to pick a band, but it looked like the producers were telling them to pick the band anyway. They also picked 20 bands at first, and then I think the producers whittled it down to 12. Also, there have been some rumors floating around that two of these bands have been created by the producers, and are going to be heavily promoted regardless of how the voting goes.

But that's the wild card with this show (and American Idol): The audience gets to vote! That's why Votefortheworst.com was able to keep Sanjaya on so long last year. He obviously sucked, but they rallied huge numbers of people and got them to call in and vote for Sanjaya. Even Howard Stern picked up on it. Apparently it almost made Nigel, the producer, have a nervous breakdown Since the ratings for this American Band show are so terrible, I think VoteFortheWorst has an even better chance of picking the winner this time; they're still trying to decide who the "worst" band is!
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No one ever had a really substantial carreer in music started from something like that
i'm not going to bother to read your entire tirade...shit, i didn't even bother to listen to the OP's band, but i can tell you that kelly clarkson has sold over 15 million albums in only 5-6 years. regardless of one's opinion of her music, or how she got started out, i would definitely call that a substantial career.

shit, that daughtry guy sold over 3 million copies of his album, and he wasn't even the winner. i don't think he even cracked the top 5. in short, i think it's ludicrous to say that being successful on a TV show such as that won't help one's career.
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and many people sell a ton of albums without actually having a "career"... look in 10 years and see if they have any sales, or even any of their money left... probably not.
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Still, if you win one of those shows, you're not really known the same way as other artists who got there on their own.

You'll always be the "Person who won American Idol", regardless of how many albums you sell.

Probably because people could see how you were back when you were still "trying to make it".
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wow... you guys a freaky! awesome!

we actually got a myspace message from the producer that was putting this together, that wanted us to send in a tape, but we kind of figured it wasn't really our thing. that maybe was a bad call...maybe not...still not really sure. we just didn't want to end up having to do all these different genres like the website stated. unless they changed the format, it sounded just like American Idol, where they'd have one band doing all there different genres that they wouldn't normally be playing...very odd to me.

anyway...rock!
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It seems like they've ditched the genre idea and are now doing artist theme shows. Tonight is Bob Dylan, and supposedly next week is David Bowie. Definitely better than the genre thing.

To be honest, the producers of the show don't seem to know what the hell is going on. They just throw money at stuff at the last minute and hope it flies (literally - we got our airplane reservations just hours before we were scheduled to leave).

The 2nd episode is on tonight at 8PM EST. I hope the kids win. I'll probably stop watching if they get booted off. They were cool, their parents were cool, and they gave us a shoutout on the main site (nextgreatband.msn.com). Plus, they rock!
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When are they going to do the pavarati show?

Yup...welcome to reality tv. A bunch of mindless moron "producers" that think a good tv show is made by just changing one word in the show title and throwing a bunch of random money at random people to see what happens (the shows are successful only because people have been trained to love them some reality tv...argggh! haha)

Not suprised at all with how unorganized and clueless they were... it doesn't take any bit of skill to do television anymore because of how little goes into making shows like that... The only people who become producers of these types of shows know which dicks to suck in order to get their success.
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How about some more publicity for you?

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Haha, yeah, that show is going to be awesome! We're dressing up as Milli Vanilli and playing three of their songs, dance moves and all. We're even including the infamous skips in "Girl You Know It's True"!
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Do us all a favor & youtube that gig.
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