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The Purpose of the List of Bad Tapes Thread

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Why not just buy new tape, get tape that will work and give support to the last tape company out there?

Screw eBay, support RMG or have no tape!
Brilliant! An abstinence only approach! Why didn’t I think of that?

The purpose of the thread is to help members avoid bad tape by sharing knowledge many would otherwise not have because of factors like when they were born, and/or when they started recording.

I always recommend new and sealed tape. However, new-old-stock tape of many varieties is as new and usable as the day it was made, even ten or twenty years old.

There is no shortage of tape, but many people are buying bad tape and passing over perfectly good tape.

Tape selection is a lost art. Tapes have different characteristics suited for different applications, but people that weren’t there wouldn’t know that.

However at least one member I know that says he was there, but was not will probably claim to have known this all along and claim he told me all about it so I could start the bad tape list, but I don't know what user name he'll be using then.
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Brilliant! An abstinence only approach! Why didn’t I think of that?

The purpose of the thread is to help members avoid bad tape by sharing knowledge many would otherwise not have because of factors like when they were born, and/or when they started recording.

I always recommend new and sealed tape. However, new-old-stock tape of many varieties is as new and usable as the day it was made, even ten or twenty years old.

There is no shortage of tape, but many people are buying bad tape and passing over perfectly good tape.

Tape selection is a lost art. Tapes have different characteristics suited for different applications, but people that weren’t there wouldn’t know that.

However at leat one member I know that says he was there, but was not will probably claim to have known this all along and claim he told me all about it so I could start the bad tape list, but I don't know what user name he'll be using then.
Fine, but can you back up your findings with hard credable data? Any sources?

Is it really "sticky-shed" or something else? Improperly taken care of machines will shed any tape like crazy. How can you be sure these tapes are all sticky shed?

I have 4 reels of tape from early 1990s that have been stored correctly and none have "sticky-shed" at all.

Can the poor storage make this SS happen?

There are many questions that have to be answered before casting a bad reputation on any tape. New tape is all up to you. It is new, and your machine's health and your storage will prove the outcome. You can't know how that tape was stored or how bad a machine it was run on. It is a crapshoot.
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...can you back up your findings with hard credable data? Any sources? .
Findings do not require back up from a source. Findings ARE the source.
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Fine, but can you back up your findings with hard credable data? Any sources?

Is it really "sticky-shed" or something else? Improperly taken care of machines will shed any tape like crazy. How can you be sure these tapes are all sticky shed?

I have 4 reels of tape from early 1990s that have been stored correctly and none have "sticky-shed" at all.

Can the poor storage make this SS happen?

There are many questions that have to be answered before casting a bad reputation on any tape. New tape is all up to you. It is new, and your machine's health and your storage will prove the outcome. You can't know how that tape was stored or how bad a machine it was run on. It is a crapshoot.
Wrong again... you know absolutely nothing about it.

With every post and every question you reveal your lack of background about the subject at hand, whatever that may be on this thread, this section of the forum or the Microphone forum, or the Rack... take your pick. You have no experience… you're fudging and guessing, but you’re no good.

The only people you can fool are newbies themselves. When you do post things that are correct you steal them almost verbatim from other members here and other web forums. But they are not your words or your thoughts and you don’t even understand what you have said. This is apparent in other threads when members try to engage you after you have stated something and you can’t continue.

To draw a parallel… it is like if you claimed you were a professional racecar driver and then asked questions like “which pedal is the brake and which is the accelerator?” “Is this the steering wheel?” You don’t realize your questions are on that level because you don’t know what you’re talking about. The professional drivers are looking at each other at this point rolling eyes and motioning to security.

You’re speaking with a Boston accent while claiming to be from Mississippi. Both the people from Boston and the people from Mississippi know you’re a poser. Only people visiting from another country could be taken in by your fraud. In all parts of the world there are recognizable dialects and other nuances that immediately differentiate a local from a visitor... someone that has actually been there from someone that is play-acting.

There is nothing wrong with being new to something… a visitor, unless you set yourself up as an experienced authority as you have and proceed to mislead and misinform people about the culture you claim to represent.
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No. Findings are based on a source. Any pHd uses his sources to support his findings.

You are not too smart or have no pHD.
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Wrong again... you know absolutely nothing about it.

With every post and every question you reveal your lack of background about the subject at hand, whatever that may be on this thread, this section of the forum or the Microphone forum, or the Rack... take your pick. You have no experience… you're fudging and guessing, but you’re no good.

The only people you can fool are newbies themselves. When you do post things that are correct you steal them almost verbatim from other members here and other web forums. But they are not your words or your thoughts and you don’t even understand what you have said. This is apparent in other threads when members try to engage you after you have stated something and you can’t continue.

To draw a parallel… it is like if you claimed you were a professional racecar driver and then asked questions like “which pedal is the brake and which is the accelerator?” “Is this the steering wheel?” You don’t realize your questions are on that level because you don’t know what you’re talking about. The professional drivers are looking at each other at this point rolling eyes and motioning to security.

You’re speaking with a Boston accent while claiming to be from Mississippi. Both the people from Boston and the people from Mississippi know you’re a poser. Only people visiting from another country could be taken in by your fraud. In all parts of the world there are recognizable dialects and other nuances that immediately differentiate a local from a visitor... someone that has actually been there from someone that is play-acting.

There is nothing wrong with being new to something… a visitor, unless you set yourself up as an experienced authority as you have and proceed to mislead and misinform people about the culture you claim to represent.
As usual, nothing to add of any substance

Try again.
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Wrong again... you know absolutely nothing about it.

With every post and every question you reveal your lack of background about the subject at hand, whatever that may be on this thread, this section of the forum or the Microphone forum, or the Rack... take your pick. You have no experience… you're fudging and guessing, but you’re no good.

The only people you can fool are newbies themselves. When you do post things that are correct you steal them almost verbatim from other members here and other web forums. But they are not your words or your thoughts and you don’t even understand what you have said. This is apparent in other threads when members try to engage you after you have stated something and you can’t continue.

To draw a parallel… it is like if you claimed you were a professional racecar driver and then asked questions like “which pedal is the brake and which is the accelerator?” “Is this the steering wheel?” You don’t realize your questions are on that level because you don’t know what you’re talking about. The professional drivers are looking at each other at this point rolling eyes and motioning to security.

You’re speaking with a Boston accent while claiming to be from Mississippi. Both the people from Boston and the people from Mississippi know you’re a poser. Only people visiting from another country could be taken in by your fraud. In all parts of the world there are recognizable dialects and other nuances that immediately differentiate a local from a visitor... someone that has actually been there from someone that is play-acting.

There is nothing wrong with being new to something… a visitor, unless you set yourself up as an experienced authority as you have and proceed to mislead and misinform people about the culture you claim to represent.

I am not trying to fool anyone. Look in the mirror.
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[QUOTE=Beck;2658549]Wrong again... you know absolutely nothing about it.

With every post and every question you reveal your lack of background about the subject at hand, ...."


You have no idea as to my experience. Why do you try to guess?

As usual, no info to share.
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ahh.................please answer the question?
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OK. Please answer why RMG tape is so bad? I need actual sources to ascertain why I should not buy their tape?

Take your time.

I have plenty of credible resources as to why their tape is very good. I would love to hear your learned response to the issue.

Waiting with baited breath

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No. Findings are based on a source. Any pHd uses his sources to support his findings.

You are not too smart or have no pHD.
Findings are the results of original research. Only when you do a literature search are your findings the research of others. At least that is how we do it here at Oregon Graduate Institute....
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Findings are the results of original research. Only when you do a literature search are your findings the research of others. At least that is how we do it here at Oregon Graduate Institute....
No. Findings are using resources to back up what you are trying to prove. No college will ever grant a degree based on "original research". You are clueless.
Without references, you are dead in the water. Wanta challengeme?

Go ahead. I have many friends at MIT that will blow your ascertions into the water.

You have to base your research on materials with references to previous research to be credible. Unless your college bases its degrees upon BS resources, it has not changed.

EDIT: I talked to your Oregon Graduate Institite and they grant degrees based on the research/reference method.
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OK. Please answer why RMG tape is so bad? I need actual sources to ascertain why I should not buy their tape?

Take your time.

I have plenty of credible resources as to why their tape is very good. I would love to hear your learned response to the issue.

Waiting with baited breath

MCI2424
We'll take your word for it on the baited breath because that sounds reasonable.

Your response is another popular troll technique that you have always used… put a string of replies after a post that has hit the nail on the head so it will be buried far enough into the thread that many won’t bother to scroll up and see it.

Leaving it there as the last post makes you feel naked, as it should. Your layering of posts are layers of clothing to hide your shame. Unfortunately for you, this hasty attempt at covering your nakedness requires that you grab whatever is close by as quikly as possible.

In this case your white painted face, red ball nose and floppy oversize shoes are only considered proper attire by other clowns. To everyone else you’re badly dressed, and I might add, quite poorly armed for the occasion.
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We'll take your word for it on the baited breath because that sounds reasonable.

Your response is another popular troll technique that you have always used… put a string of replies after a post that has hit the nail on the head so it will be buried far enough into the thread that many won’t bother to scroll up and see it.

Leaving it there as the last post makes you feel naked, as it should. Your layering of posts are layers of clothing to hide your shame. Unfortunately for you, this hasty attempt at covering your nakedness requires that you grab whatever is close by as quikly as possible.

In this case your white painted face, red ball nose and floppy oversize shoes are only considered proper attire by other clowns. To everyone else you’re badly dressed, and I might add, quite poorly armed for the occasion.
Please answer the question?
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I have plenty of credible resources ...
I'm glad that you do
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I would love to hear your learned response to the issue.
The only reason I respond to MCI2424 posts on this board IS - fulfilling my duty helping to keep this board being a credible resource for people who are in search for information about actual findings.

There is always a purpose, you see..
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No. Findings are using resources to back up what you are trying to prove. No college will ever grant a degree based on "original research". You are clueless.
Without references, you are dead in the water. Wanta challengeme?

Go ahead. I have many friends at MIT that will blow your ascertions into the water.

You have to base your research on materials with references to previous research to be credible. Unless your college bases its degrees upon BS resources, it has not changed.

EDIT: I talked to your Oregon Graduate Institite and they grant degrees based on the research/reference method.
Oh, Who did you talk to? Please let me know.

OGI is a research institute not a teaching institute. All scientific knowledge is based on the works of others. We cite those references in our papers. Each and every person who is granted a degree from OGI must do some original research. Their findings are the basis on their research. It must be significant and original.

Buts lets go back to who you talked to here. Please tell me their name.
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No. Findings are using resources to back up what you are trying to prove. No college will ever grant a degree based on "original research". You are clueless.
Without references, you are dead in the water. Wanta challengeme?

Go ahead. I have many friends at MIT that will blow your ascertions into the water.

You have to base your research on materials with references to previous research to be credible. Unless your college bases its degrees upon BS resources, it has not changed.

EDIT: I talked to your Oregon Graduate Institite and they grant degrees based on the research/reference method.
Oh, Who did you talk to? Please let me know.

OGI is a research institute not a teaching institute. All scientific knowledge is based on the works of others. We cite those references in our papers. Each and every person who is granted a degree from OGI must do some original research. Their findings are the basis of their research. It must be significant and original.

But lets go back to who you talked to here at OGI. Please tell me their name.
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Without references, you are dead in the water.
Reference is not a proving point nor a point to score.
Reference is an obligation when and where it is due.
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Oh, Who did you talk to? Please let me know.

OGI is a research institute not a teaching institute. All scientific knowledge is based on the works of others. We cite those references in our papers. Each and every person who is granted a degree from OGI must do some original research. Their findings are the basis on their research. It must be significant and original.

Buts lets go back to who you talked to here. Please tell me their name.
Uhh................where have I gone wrong?

READ DR>ZEES POST and then READ MY ANSWER


I SAID THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE REFERENCES FOR YOUR FINDINGS.

Please read s...l...o...w...l...y so you can get it.

IE> You can"t say that RMG tape is better than Quantagy because I think it sounds better. You have to prove it sounds better with references to how it is made, what material (better/worse) it is made from and why it is better.

Subjectivity aside in the "sound" there must be scientific reason (s) why it would "sound" better.
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always do.

I'm glad that you do

The only reason I respond to MCI2424 posts on this board IS - fulfilling my duty helping to keep this board being a credible resource for people who are in search for information about actual findings.

There is always a purpose, you see..
Name for me 1 uncredible thing you think I said.

1 example please.

It is time for you to close your mouth and prove, by way of reference, why you are just plain attacking me and my experience, credibility etc.
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Come on Andy, answer the question!

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Reference is not a proving point nor a point to score.
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Oh, Who did you talk to? Please let me know.

OGI is a research institute not a teaching institute. All scientific knowledge is based on the works of others. We cite those references in our papers. Each and every person who is granted a degree from OGI must do some original research. Their findings are the basis of their research. It must be significant and original.

But lets go back to who you talked to here at OGI. Please tell me their name.
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No. Findings are using resources to back up what you are trying to prove. No college will ever grant a degree based on "original research". You are clueless.
Without references, you are dead in the water. Wanta challengeme?

Go ahead. I have many friends at MIT that will blow your ascertions into the water.

You have to base your research on materials with references to previous research to be credible. Unless your college bases its degrees upon BS resources, it has not changed.

EDIT: I talked to your Oregon Graduate Institite and they grant degrees based on the research/reference method.

Andy, come on. Tell me who you talked to at OGI. I'll be happy to walk over to their office and ask them what you talked about.

Just answer this one question. Who at OGI did you talk to?
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Andy, come on. Tell me who you talked to at OGI. I'll be happy to walk over to their office and ask them what you talked about.

Just answer this one question. Who at OGI did you talk to?
See. Bait taken. You have absolutely no problem with my changing the subject if you can harass.

Try answering another question, Where excatly have I given misleading information over and over again?


You just seem to be following the heroes here. They have given not one shred of proof as to their ascertions. Any "proof" they have provided was totally taken out of context. What kind of degree have you been given? I hope they are teaching you to think for yourself. Not trying to put you down at all, but you are calling me on everything and them on nothing.

I think I will bypass OGI if that is the scientific method they choose to teach.

Peace be with you.
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