frames

[raven46]

i just bought some fiberglass slabs and some 4x2's to frame it

whats the best and most cost effective material to use to cover each frame

i was thinking canvas but i need good bit and i was told it can be expensive

each frame is 48"x16"x4" and a total of 18 frames, whatever material i get will have about 2" either side

any recommendations...

[tmix]

A lot f your choice will be based on whether you want a flame retardant fabric or not.

If it does not matter, I suggest burlap.
I used it on mine ( about 60 panels some as long as 10 feet long).
It is very sturdy and you dont have to worry about wrinkles!


It was like 40 inches wide which wrapped nicely.
To get a look at it go to:

wwwtmixstudio.com

You might can see it through my poor picture taking.

Tom

[raven46]

Originally Posted by tmix

To get a look at it go to:

wwwtmixstudio.com


Tom

is this the site

http://www.earthandspacemusic.com/tmix/

[raven46]

burlap is the perfect choice but im finding it hard trying to locate some

ive rang all the main builders providers and D.I.Y. shops in my area but no joy

tmix : what kind of store did you buy yours??

[tmix]

Yes!
That is the mirror site for the band I play with, Brothers 3.(www.brothers3.us)
We play Celtic Fusion.

I am a horrible typist.
It should have been:
www.tmixstudio.com

Sorry
Tom

[tmix]

Originally Posted by raven46

burlap is the perfect choice but im finding it hard trying to locate some

ive rang all the main builders providers and D.I.Y. shops in my area but no joy

tmix : what kind of store did you buy yours??

I must have been typing at the same time as you...
I bought it online through a local distributor.She sells online through Ebay.
I paid 1.75 a yard plus shipping, whch ended up about $0.25 a yard more.

I have bought around 300 plus yards from her since december with no issues.

Her email: Troutt Enterprises
loli3844@comcast.net

Also there is some at the local Fabric shops and discount centers... but that does not help you much I guess.

She may ship it to you, I can't imagine why she would not. It comes in 50 yard rolls in a thick vinyl bag / wrapper. But she also sells small quantities by the yard.


Good luck!

Tom

[Chili]

I have a small home studio and am in the process of hanging fiberglass panels also. I'm going to cover the panels with very light fabric (you can almost see through it) that I got real cheap from walmart, something like $1/LF. I am using spray-on adhesive to hold the fabric to the panel. Then I'm going to basically use toggle bolts to hold the panels on the wall.

Behind the panel will be 1" x 1" fir strip to space the panel off the wall a little. (I know it should be more, but I don't have the room to sacrifice) Then on the front I will use 1/8" x 2" lattice strips. The lattice strip and the fir strip will sandwich the panel and the toggle bolt will run through all three and into the wall. 2 strips per panel, 2 toggle bolts per strip. The fabric matches the color of the walls and I will paint the lattice strips to match also.

I think I spent less than $40 to be able to cover and hang 10 panels.

Hope this helps,
Dave

[raven46]

Originally Posted by tmix

I must have been typing at the same time as you...
I bought it online through a local distributor.She sells online through Ebay.
I paid 1.75 a yard plus shipping, whch ended up about $0.25 a yard more.

I have bought around 300 plus yards from her since december with no issues.

Her email: Troutt Enterprises
loli3844@comcast.net

Also there is some at the local Fabric shops and discount centers... but that does not help you much I guess.

She may ship it to you, I can't imagine why she would not. It comes in 50 yard rolls in a thick vinyl bag / wrapper. But she also sells small quantities by the yard.


Good luck!

Tom

nice one, i dropped her a mail but im thinkin that even is she is willing to ship it is going to be a crazy price to ship over here and it will probably take at least 2 or 3 weeks to get here

so i called a local frabic shop and the cheapest material they have is called panama 100% cotton, to get enough to do my frames its going to cost 121euro, ive already spent 260 today on the fiberglass and 4x2's but at least i can pick the fabric up 2moro and make a start on it


thanks anyway

[raven46]

Originally Posted by Chili

Behind the panel will be 1" x 1" fir strip to space the panel off the wall a little. (I know it should be more, but I don't have the room to sacrifice)

i was reading an a good article(which i probably picked up here) on acoustic treatment earlier an it said nothing(unless i missed it) about leaving a space between the frame and the wall

http://www.ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html

is this important... do you have to calculate it by the size of your room or is there a standard

[Innovations]

2x4 is way overkill for absorber frames. 16" is an odd width for them because rigid fiberglass is usually sold in 2x4 foot dimensions, and if you go to a fabric store you should have no trouble finding either felt or burlap, the two most common choices for DIY panels. Also most fabric stores either stock or can point you toward spray on flameproofing.

[Innovations]

Originally Posted by Chili

I have a small home studio and am in the process of hanging fiberglass panels also. I'm going to cover the panels with very light fabric (you can almost see through it) that I got real cheap from walmart, something like $1/LF. I am using spray-on adhesive to hold the fabric to the panel. Then I'm going to basically use toggle bolts to hold the panels on the wall.

Behind the panel will be 1" x 1" fir strip to space the panel off the wall a little. (I know it should be more, but I don't have the room to sacrifice) Then on the front I will use 1/8" x 2" lattice strips. The lattice strip and the fir strip will sandwich the panel and the toggle bolt will run through all three and into the wall. 2 strips per panel, 2 toggle bolts per strip. The fabric matches the color of the walls and I will paint the lattice strips to match also.

I think I spent less than $40 to be able to cover and hang 10 panels.

Hope this helps,
Dave

If you are using unframed panels consider impaling clips to hold the panel to the wall. It will eliminate the need for the lattice strips and be an easier installation than the toggle bolts.

Here is one place to get them:

http://www.acousticalsolutions.com/p...ling_clips.asp

[raven46]

Originally Posted by Innovations

2x4 is way overkill for absorber frames. 16" is an odd width for them because rigid fiberglass is usually sold in 2x4 foot dimensions, and if you go to a fabric store you should have no trouble finding either felt or burlap, the two most common choices for DIY panels. Also most fabric stores either stock or can point you toward spray on flameproofing.

im going to drill holes all over the 4x2's so hopefully it will be less of an overkill

yeah first he said the panels were 2x4foot but later said that they were 16inchX4foot so i dont know, if they turn out to be 2x4foot that will be ok coz i ordered enough 4x2's to frame 2x4foot

man this is ireland the simplist thing is hard to find less yer in dublin or cork...

[Innovations]

Originally Posted by raven46

yeah first he said the panels were 2x4foot but later said that they were 16inchX4foot so i dont know, if they turn out to be 2x4foot that will be ok coz i ordered enough 4x2's to frame 2x4foot

man this is ireland the simplist thing is hard to find less yer in dublin or cork...

Be sure that you are getting the right stuff. 16 inches is the common width for the fluffy in-wall thermal building insulation. That is not dense enough to have any particular accousting properties worth noting.

[Chili]

Originally Posted by raven46

i was reading an a good article(which i probably picked up here) on acoustic treatment earlier an it said nothing(unless i missed it) about leaving a space between the frame and the wall

http://www.ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html

is this important... do you have to calculate it by the size of your room or is there a standard

That's the same article I read, it's packed full of great info. Read the section called Optimizing Air Gap. That's where it talks about leaving a space between the panels and the walls. It says to calculate based on freq, but goes on to say that it's impractical in most cases to have 2 feet spaces and whatever you can afford will be beneficial. So, I can afford about an inch. lol.

Innovations, wish I had seen those impaling clips before. But I already got started with the toggle bolts, so I'm okay with it. Thanks for the info....

Dave