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Software to count 'clips' /clipping

I recall there was a way of using soundforge or cool edit pro to count how many times the wave file 'clips'/distorts. Anyone know how?

I'm doing a comparison between some commerial productions, to see how hot is acceptibly hot by today's standards. Some hot/saturated/RMS-normalized recordings sound good, some don't. All of them have clipping to varying degrees, so I want to see if there's a direct correlation between how many clips occur and whether you can hear them in playback.
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The free version of Elemental Audio's Inspector counts clipping events.
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http://www.rogernicholsdigital.com/RND_downloads.htm
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The plugin wouldn't work, so I poked around soundforge 8.0 and found there was "Detect Clipping" in the tools menu. I ran it at each setting and found no clipping. I'm trying something I know has clipping to see if it actually works.
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The free version of Elemental Audio's Inspector counts clipping events.

Exactly.


Except for its now called Roger Nichols and not Elemental Audio!
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I got the Soundforge built-in feature to work (after you run the clip detection you have to go into View-->Regions List so it shows each clip instance).
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I recall there was a way of using soundforge or cool edit pro to count how many times the wave file 'clips'/distorts. Anyone know how?

I'm doing a comparison between some commerial productions, to see how hot is acceptibly hot by today's standards. Some hot/saturated/RMS-normalized recordings sound good, some don't. All of them have clipping to varying degrees, so I want to see if there's a direct correlation between how many clips occur and whether you can hear them in playback.
Your personal software in your brain came with a really nice feature for finding problems called ears. They will be able to tell when there are any important problems. If it's not audible, what's the difference?
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You're not going to find a correlation. Even the loudest stuff that comes out of here isn't going to show you a clip. Some places let 'em out like that, other places don't.

And on the other hand, something doesn't have to be "loud" to clip.
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terramortim and master are right...think of clips as just audio that's peaks have been flattened so much that the sound is noticeable and unwanted.

'clip' usually means that it goes over the amount of db a system can take, and those are usually quite audible as they are perfectly flat on the transients...but clipping can happen pre-fader too, and just because the wave is rounded off, doesn't mean it's not distorted
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