tascam m-15 or 320

[almachurchchoir]

hi,

I would like to get a tascam console to use it with my nuendo rig. I got 16 ins and outs rme hammerfall / adat which I could enlarge to 16 ins, 24 outs.
I could get a full blown tascam m-15 for around 800 Euros, and as I understand it, it´s a reasonable price.
question: which desk is better (pres, eqs), m-15 or the later 320?

I also have a tascam 388 which I would be very happy to connect as well.
At the moment, I use the 388 channels to go via the outs 1-8 straight into the computer. 8 channels in are enough for me. in the computer, I group tracks to 4 groups (vox, guitars, drums&bass, fx) and sum them via the line ins on the 388, record them to tape and return a stereo signal to the rig to master to cd. sounds fine and gives me analog feel and sound through the tape and the editing features and UAD reverb of the digital rig.

now I would like to be able to mixdown at least 16 channels of audio outside the box and therefore I´m in need of a mixer. I want to get rid of computer eq´s wherever possible and be abel to really mixdown my music on the desk, not only sum up already mixed signals.

any suggestions? ....the m-15 looks damn cool......wonder how it sounds.
I love the sound of seventies recordings, billie joels the stranger, goodbye yellow brick road, jackson browne....

thanks for the help

andreas
btw. if you like check music recorded with the described setup at www.alma-church-choir.de

[The Ghost of FM]

There's quite a few people on this BBS that own M312 and M320 series mixers, my self included. I have two M312B's which I've cascaded together to form in essence an M324B which I use to record and mixdown with a 16 track, one inch reel to reel deck. I find mine to be very clean, quiet and flexible as well as sounding quite warm and punchy. The EQ section also sounds good and tunable enough that I rarely to never have the need of inserting any additional outboard EQ's of which I have a couple of 31 band units at my disposal.

Though you mentioned liking some of the recordings from the 70's, I'm pretty sure that none of the names you mentioned would have used either of these mixers in their productions and even if they did, it would still not be a guarantee that you would achieve the same sound or results that they did. This is one of the bigger urban legends that persists in the musical instrument industry that if we only could obtain the same paint brush that Picasso had, we'd surely paint the same masterpiece as him.

Cheers!

[almachurchchoir]

I know I know.. the quoted albums were just for orientation. of course I will probably never record an album like the ones mentioned in my life but that´s not the point.
I´ve read a lot about the 308 312 and 320 consoles but hardly nothing about the m-15. is ist because it´s just old or ist it because it sounds crappy compared to the 300 series?

thanks for the help, appreciated.

andreas

[The Ghost of FM]

The rarity of information and number of users of the M15 mixer can largely be attributed to the fact that this was a short lived product from TEAC that was very expensive being their first larger frame, 8 buss architecture board. Not many of them were built and sold compared to the more successful M300 series mixers which were in their product line up from the early 80's to the early 90's.

If you have a bit of patience, I'm sure someone with direct experience with the M15 will chime in on their performance.

Cheers!

[bigtrucker]

I HAVE A M15 FOR SALE IF YOU ARE INTERESTED. IT DOES NEED A POWER SUPPLY. ITS JUST TO BIG 4 MY SMALL SETUP. EMAIL ME IF INTERESTED. THX, JLS kady-j@sbcglobal.net