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02-01-2001
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It's not the size that counts...
...but rather how you use it!!!
 (sorry... someone HAD to say it!!!) Bruce  
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02-01-2001
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How much bread do you want to spend?
Bigger woofers = bigger cabinets = bigger amplifiers = bigger bucks. I have Event Trias, which have an 8in Sub mounted in the cabinet with the amps and crossovers. The desktop cabs have 5 1/4 inch woofers and a 1 inch tweeter. Nice compact footprint, and the sub can kick some bass and rattle shit all over in here. 320watts total power across five discreet amps. Hey, and http://www.8thstreet.com has them for $500US bucks. Or, check out the Mackie 824's. 250watts each. About $1350 a pair. But man, they are fuckin' sweet!
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02-01-2001
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Actually... I *AM* serious...
...you listen to the monitors, if you like 'em you take 'em home and learn how to mix on them. If they are bass-shy then you learn very quickly not to pump the bass levels or you risk blowing the systems of anyone you pass your music on to. Conversely, if you get monitors with TONS of low-end (ie, large woofer), then you still have to learn where to put your bass levels (because where you think they sound right on your system will make them bass-shy for someone listening on a boombox.)
So audition monitors and buy a pair because you like how they sound, NOT because of the size of their woofers, or their color, or their specs... you listen with your ears, not your eyes.  Bruce
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02-01-2001
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So "kewlness" isn't even a factor?
Ever see the Grateful Dead Movie? They're fixing to fly a huge array of speakers into the rafters of Winterland and they ask Garcia about the placement. His response: "Whatever looks the hippest." Probably my favorite line from that movie...
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02-01-2001
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Well actually.......
We've now got 8" woofers in our Event 20/20 and 15" woofers in our Genelecs. Both produce the same amount of bottom end but the Genelecs have a higher SPL i.e. go louder before breakup.
 cheers john
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02-02-2001
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I bought the Event PS6's because I thought the PS8's would produce too much bass for the size of my bedroom studio. I believe the room is about 12' by 12'. I read an article in a magazine that explained why the standing waves, bass response, etc. could cause problems. Just something to think about.
Bruce- some of us don't have to make the excuse "it's the size that counts" ! ( I couldn't resist)
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02-02-2001
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Quote:
Bruce
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02-02-2001
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Hey Frank....... why do you care what we do to this thread now? You already got your answer!
(Could it be that maybe this whole "size thing" embarrasses you???) Bruce
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02-02-2001
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I date small women just in case the "theory of relativity" comes up.
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02-02-2001
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Cool!
Man, I didn't think anyone was carrying those Trias anymore. I'm pretty sure I just ordered some from 8th Street, but they haven't confirmed my order yet.
Thanks C7, I owe you one! Maybe I'll let you win a political argument sometime!
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02-02-2001
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(Could it be that maybe this whole "size thing" embarrasses you???)
Bruce, man if you want to compare size, just say the word and you will see a nice, HUGE picture of my Mr. Johnson, my Willy Wonka, my... well you get the picture.
I have no shame Bruce so watch out!
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02-02-2001
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Thanks Frank......(but I think I'll pass!)
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02-02-2001
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It's cool Frank...
...I was just messin' wid ya!
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02-06-2001
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so what is actually a good speaker
???????????????... around $300
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02-06-2001
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a good pair of NON powered monitors are Event 20/20 ($300), or Yorkville YSM-1 they are about $220 American dollars.
http://www.yorkville.com
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02-06-2001
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ive been reading about the alesis M1, and the yamaha ms-10, how do these compare to the speakers you just talked about
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02-07-2001
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The 20/20's and the YSM-1 are better then those you mentioned. Keep in mind these monitors have no power supply. You could get powered 20/20's but that's about $800. Event is the company that makes the 20/20's but if the 20/20's are too expensive then look into the lower end Event monitors like the Ps-8, Ps6, or Ps-5. The Ps series are all powered, and the best Ps model (Ps-8) is about $650.
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02-07-2001
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hmm, one more that i was wondering if anyone knew about..., the audix studio 1A. I am checking into the ones you mentioned previously.
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02-09-2001
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I just got my Trias...they sound kick ass! I know, I know, don't use a sub in a small room. Maybe so, but did I mention that they kick ass?! I forgot how clean music can sound when played through decent speakers.
The placement of the instruments is so distinct through these things. You can really hear all of the subtle pans in a mix. I don't know if I'm using the proper terminology for what I'm describing, but it's really amazing. Thanks again for the tip C7, these are exactly what I was looking for. Mark
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