Phoenix Drum mics

[Paj]

Regarding these mics, does anybody have any experience or insights?

http://karma.hostcentric.com/clearancepage.htm

Thanks,
Paj
8^)

[TragikRemix]

Originally Posted by website

These mics are used by Dave Lombardo (Slayer, Fantomas, and Grip Inc.) and Virgil Donati (Ring of Fire, Steve Vai, Planet X, and CAB) in their own studios and now these are available to you.

i highly doubt that info

well.... recording with them would work, but i don't think it would be excellent by any standards. for live they would be OK at best, i would imagine.

[appleyardrules]

99 dollars for 7 mics AND a case
wow
please do not buy that you will be disappointed

[Cult_Status02]

I don't know, I wouldn't read it as though they suck, I read it as "What do you have to lose?" Many people on this board have really liked the Karma mics, so perhaps they are worth a shot. If you judge everything on price, I think you'll end up being very dissapointed in this business. Case and point being the sm57 alone, cheap, but look how well it works.

I think ultimately if you have the money to spare, then give them a shot, or send an e-mail to the company and find out what their return policy is, perhaps you could try them out and if you don't like them send them back and only pay for shipping.

Good luck.

[appleyardrules]

the guy above does have a very good point
however idk because this whole set of 7 mics is the price of one sm57
lol

[andycerrone]

Try the Naiant kit. They're $133 and the overheads alone are better than the Oktavas..

[Paj]

Originally Posted by andycerrone

Try the Naiant kit. They're $133 and the overheads alone are better than the Oktavas..

Unless you're in glass isolation, the Naiant mics aren't ideal for live (I have sets of the MSH-1O, 1C, 1K and MSH-4. I also have the Octavas). I'm looking at the set as a birthday gift for a friend in need of something for live gigs.

BTW, in an email response, the sales rep for Karma claimed that these mics are maunfactures by Karma.

Paj
8^)

[kojdogg]

the karma people make good stuff and the prices are low to begin with because they sell direct. i saw that they were selling those kits on ebay for considerably more. the overhead sd condensers look a lot like the sdc's from their regular product line, but don't have as good specs. i personally wonder if they are liquidating them because 1.) they have a different name now and 2.) if there was any pressure from phoenix audio (i think it's a small company that makes high quality ad/da's or pres or something) to stop marketing products under that name.
they also apparently have a bunch of new stuff coming out in '07 and already have a pretty big product line for a small company.

[Paj]

Yeah, the reference to Phoenix Audio is what originally piqued my interest in the mics and what prompted my query to the Karma sales rep. You may be on to something with the trademark conflict. Actually, I already have the mics here but if I'm going to give them as a gift, I don't want to open the packaging and mess around with them. The drummer's sitting in with us for New Year's Eve. We'll try 'em out then---see what he thinks (He records via FirePod/Sonar with D112/NTK on kick, 57s on snare/toms, MK012s for overheads but none of the mics are his). After that, when I get time, I'll rig up one of the snare mics in a radial spread (with an SM57, GXL57 and e609s) on a guitar amp and get a comparison.

Thanks for the input; opinions/insights are still welcome.

Paj
8^)


P.S.: I got to visit the home studio of an engineer who has a couple of recent main-stream pop platinums hanging on his wall. His choices for drums were generally no surprise except for the overheads: D112/RE20 (kick), SM57 (snare), MD421 (toms), CS1000s (overheads). Vocals: U87 (lead), 414 (background). Favorite preamps: Avalons.

[hairylarry]

Paj,

Did you ever get to try those mics? I'm curious about them.

Thanks,

Hairy Larry