Triplets....

[ez_willis]

How do a play 'em?

Try to write it out. I can't hear your beat box version.

[Cody Suit]

RLR LRL RLR LRL

thats how. is that what you were looking for?

R= right hand L=Left hand

[PhilGood]

There are alot of combos besides alternating hands.

RLR LRL RLR LRL

or

RLL RLL RLL RLL

RRL RRL RRL RRL

LRR LRR LRR LRR

LLR LLR LLR LLR

These are called double paradiddles:

RLRLRR LRLRLL RLRLRR LRLRLL

And you can make up combinations going around the drums.

[ez_willis]

Maybe it's not triplets. It's got a kick drum in there somewhere.

Let me think......

The drum thing at the beginning of that Ozzy song, I think it's I Don't Know??

[zed32]

Originally Posted by ez_willis

I Don't Know??

me either.

[funkydrummer]

Originally Posted by PhilGood

There are alot of combos besides alternating hands.

RLR LRL RLR LRL

or

RLL RLL RLL RLL

RRL RRL RRL RRL

LRR LRR LRR LRR

LLR LLR LLR LLR

These are called double paradiddles:

RLRLRR LRLRLL RLRLRR LRLRLL

And you can make up combinations going around the drums.

a few of of my favourites are:

RLR RLL-- sounds better in 6: RLRRLL RLRRLL

RLR LRL RLL RLL

RLL RLL RRL RRL

the five stroke roll: R-ll-rr L-rr-ll

[mrface2112]

Originally Posted by ez_willis

Try to write it out. I can't hear your beat box version.

try this:
TRIP UH LET
TRIP UH LET
TRIP UH LET
TRIP UH LET
TRIP UH LET
TRIP UH LET

beatbox as necessary.


cheers,
wade

[RideTheCrash]

Maybe you're thinking of a fill triplet thing I play. It's like a Bonham thing.

I play with my sticks on the toms -- right hand, left hand, kick and play it fast to make it sound like triplet. You can roll around your kit this way.

[RAK]

There are different kinds of triplets. 1/8th note triplets, 1/4 note triplets for example.
1/8 note triplets are a grouping of three 1/8 notes in the space of one 1/4 note.
So in a 4/4 measure you'd have four 1/4 notes, and twelve 1/8th notes, three over each 1/4 note.

With 1/4 note triplets you have three 1/4 notes over the space of one 1/2 note.

In the example below, imagine the ! are 1/4 notes and the * are 1/8th notes
4/4: !---!---!---!---
4/4: ************

8th note triples in their most basic common form are written as three 1/8th notes with a connecting bar across all three, and a little number 3 above that.

1/4 note triplets are generally written as three 1/4 notes with a bar above them (but not connected) and a number 3 in the middle of the bar.

[phaqu]

Originally Posted by ez_willis

Maybe it's not triplets. It's got a kick drum in there somewhere.

Let me think......

The drum thing at the beginning of that Ozzy song, I think it's I Don't Know??

Over the Mountain maybe?

[RezN8]

Many people ask me how to play "Bohnam triplets" so I show them this first:

right hand snare, left hand rack tom, right hand floor tom, bass drum

you can either count that as:
1 trip-let two

or

1-e-&-ah

Both are useful as fills, especially early hard rock/heavy metal.

Once you get that into muscle memory, then set the metronome at about 80bpm and play quarter notes on the bass drum:

1 2 3 4

Now add right hand on floor and left hand on rack tom

1 trip-let 2 3 4
BD RH LH


Repeat that 20x

Once those are tight, even and locked in with the metronome, then complete the exercise:


ll:1 trip-let 2 3 trip-let 4 :ll 20x

ll:1 trip-let 2 trip-let 3 4 :ll 20x

ll:1 trip-let 2 trip-let 3 trip-let 4 :ll 20x

ll:1 trip-let 2 trip-let 3 trip-let 4 trip-let :ll 20x

Get comfortable with that before speeding up. Once you've got that then try play quarter notes on the bass drum as fast as you can EVENLY and repeat the exercise.

I've taught a lot of people this way, and those who practice the exercise as written (AND with metronome) are the ones who get solid, thundering triplets. Those who ignore the exercise and try to play as fast as bohnam right away usually ended up sounding sloppy and uneven. Your choice.

Originally Posted by ez_willis

The drum thing at the beginning of that Ozzy song, I think it's I Don't Know??

If I remember correctly, the opening for "Over the Mountain" is actually quads. I'd play it this way:

Right Left Kick Kick

SN= snare
BD= bass drum
LT= small tom
FT= floor tom

SN SN BD BD FT LT BD BD FT LT BD BD SN SN BD BD

SN SN BD BD FT LT BD BD FT LT BD BD SN SN BD BD

SN SN BD BD FT LT BD BD FT LT BD BD

SN (Flam) SN (Flam)

A little easier with double bass...

Enjoy, Rez

[ez_willis]

Originally Posted by RezN8

Many people ask me how to play "Bohnam triplets" so I show them this first:

right hand snare, left hand rack tom, right hand floor tom, bass drum

you can either count that as:
1 trip-let two

or

1-e-&-ah..............

YES!!! That's what I'm looking for. Thanks, dude. I'll post a link to the first song that I use this in.

[Bulls Hit]

Originally Posted by RezN8

Many people ask me how to play "Bohnam triplets" so I show them this first:

right hand snare, left hand rack tom, right hand floor tom, bass drum

you can either count that as:
1 trip-let two

or

1-e-&-ah

Both are useful as fills, especially early hard rock/heavy metal.

Those are 4 beat fills so I'm not sure they're triplets.

Have a listen to what Bonham does in Good Times Bad Times at 0.24 & again at 0.29. I think they're 16th triplets, with the first note played on the hihat and the second two on the kick

[MadAudio]

Originally Posted by ez_willis

YES!!! That's what I'm looking for. Thanks, dude. I'll post a link to the first song that I use this in.

Damn, and I was all ready to record you some examples of that lick - one played slow and one played normal. Once, you get it down, though, it's a fun lick to play. I've used it here and there. And an earlier poster was right - the Ozzy song you're thinking of is "Over the Mountain" and IIRC it was the first track on "Diary of a Madman."

[ez_willis]

Originally Posted by MadAudio

Damn, and I was all ready to record you some examples of that lick - one played slow and one played normal.

Please record those for me! Seriously. It will be easier to learn for me.

If you could, start slow, then pick the tempo up over the course of a few measures.

[ez_willis]

Originally Posted by Bulls Hit

Those are 4 beat fills so I'm not sure they're triplets.

I was incorrect in calling them triplets.

He knew what I was looking for.

Originally Posted by Bulls Hit

Have a listen to what Bonham does in Good Times Bad Times at 0.24 & again at 0.29. I think they're 16th triplets

Anyone can play that!

[ez_willis]

Originally Posted by ez_willis

Anyone can play that!

This was a joke. So ya know.

[MadAudio]

Originally Posted by ez_willis

Please record those for me! Seriously. It will be easier to learn for me.

If you could, start slow, then pick the tempo up over the course of a few measures.

Alright then, I will! I can do it tomorrow and will post you a link ASAP.

[Dogman]

Originally Posted by ez_willis

This was a joke. So ya know.

Send me your drums. I'm taking them away from you.

[MadAudio]

Originally Posted by Dogman

Send me your drums. I'm taking them away from you.

Please don't. We need every drummer we can get our hands on for JamFest 7!

[Bulls Hit]

Originally Posted by ez_willis

I was incorrect in calling them triplets.

He knew what I was looking for.



Anyone can play that!

Ah right. In that case have a listen to what Bonzo does at the end of Rock and Roll, probably more what you're after

[MadAudio]

OK, I didn't record the fill today, but definitely tomorrow!

[ez_willis]

Originally Posted by Bulls Hit

Ah right. In that case have a listen to what Bonzo does at the end of Rock and Roll, probably more what you're after

Yes! Exactly.


WTF are those called, anyways?

[RezN8]

Originally Posted by ez_willis

Yes! Exactly.


WTF are those called, anyways?

Some call them "bidduhleedumps" ...

Then there are those who call them...


Tim?

[MadAudio]

Alright, here you go. I hope this helps.

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5799