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Can I remove these noises somehow?

http://bobspryn.com/files/clip.aif.zip

I think its lip-smacking or something along those lines.

We used a nice condenser mic with a pop-screen, and it seems it may be doing TOO good a job.

Any of the waves plugins good at helping with something along those lines?

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You could try selecting just the part in the wave file with the "smacking" and use it for a noise reduction profile.

Or try with an EQ to find the "trouble" frequencies.

Try cutting 8K and above and see if that helps.

Personally, I would just re-record it and tell the guy to stop smacking his lips when he talks.
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Nope.

You're screwed.
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select them and delete them

or
volume automation.
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select them and delete them

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Yep. It's called "editing".

Works far better than any plug for this kind of stuff.

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K thanks.

I'll search for the spikes manually.
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Volume automation?

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Yup. Think of it like automatically and momentarily "ducking" the volume to remove the offending sounds.

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Yup. Think of it like automatically and momentarily "ducking" the volume to remove the offending sounds.

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and it sounds a LOT more natural.
works well with plosives too
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Nope.

You're screwed.
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What ARE you good for here?

http://www.phoenixlightandsound.com/Audio/fixed.aif
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Y'all need to brush up on your denoise type of plugin's!

By the way, that was Waves XCrackle that did that. I think it did a very nice job. A hair of grunge that wasn't there before, but that is FAR more acceptable than the smacking sound!
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It was also FAR FAR FAR faster than trying to volume automate stuff.

Imagine a 20 minute presentation!

I can't believe you all think you can't fix this stuff easily.
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Hot... I'm trying that plugin.

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No problem man.

Be careful about the "advice" you get around here. A lot of these guys have not been engineering very long at all and basically only share what they have "heard" from others, rather than from experience.
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Nice. Well thanks, that plugin demo is working wonders. Might have to go and buy that.

Quick question... I'm normalizing the audio to 0db. Then I'm using the L3 ultramax to compress/limit my audio. Is that a proper process, or should I cut out the normalizing step?

I also heard something about normalizing to -6db and then compress/limiting to 0.

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I don't understand why you would need to "normalize" the audio.

The L3 is not a compressor. It is a limiter. Two different things.
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Well... then I'll stop.

Should the crackle plugin be run before or after I limit the audio?

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Probably before.
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this is very retarded...but can I make my mix louder without normalizing, no? And without clipping? Like in I tunes when you can increase the volume by like 100%. This is so retarded, sorry.
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Yup. Think of it like automatically and momentarily "ducking" the volume to remove the offending sounds.

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Yeah I know what that is. I use it all the time on bass string squeeks, vocal pops or sybilance etc.

I was making a suggestion.

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Well... then I'll stop.

Should the crackle plugin be run before or after I limit the audio?

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If you are using the L3 to boost the level a good deal (ie to compete with commercial CDs) then apply all effects before the L3. Once you have used the L3 I would never add any effects.

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I can't believe you all think you can't fix this stuff easily.
I can't believe there's a generation of wanks who grew up depending on plugs and think that digital editing is hard.

On a 20 minute clip, a good editor can manually knock down the the average number of plosives, lip smacks, etc. as fast, and more importantly - a lot cleaner - than running a noiseprint, tweaking it to order, and running it against the clip.

As to whether one does it via manual wave knockdown, pencil redraws, or rubberband automation is up to the individual editor/engineer. Some are faster at one over the others, mostly based upon force of habit/experience. It's a "choose your weapon" situation. I happen to like manually knocking down the waveforms; Sonic Al (I think) prefers pencil redraws. Sounds like maybe Ben likes the automation best(?).

It doesn't matter, when done right they all have the same end result, which is usually (not always, I'll admit) much more surgical and transparent than even the best plugs. And when you've been doing it for long enough, it's just as fast as setting up and running a plug.

If there are an extreme amount of such oddities in the track, OK, maybe it might be faster to run a plug. But if you got that many problems, that track should've never stuck to tape to begin with.

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I can't believe there's a generation of wanks who grew up depending on plugs and think that digital editing is hard.

On a 20 minute clip, a good editor can manually knock down the the average number of plosives, lip smacks, etc. as fast, and more importantly - a lot cleaner - than running a noiseprint, tweaking it to order, and running it against the clip.

As to whether one does it via manual wave knockdown, pencil redraws, or rubberband automation is up to the individual editor/engineer. Some are faster at one over the others, mostly based upon force of habit/experience. It's a "choose your weapon" situation. I happen to like manually knocking down the waveforms; Sonic Al (I think) prefers pencil redraws. Sounds like maybe Ben likes the automation best(?).

It doesn't matter, when done right they all have the same end result, which is usually (not always, I'll admit) much more surgical and transparent than even the best plugs. And when you've been doing it for long enough, it's just as fast as setting up and running a plug.

If there are an extreme amount of such oddities in the track, OK, maybe it might be faster to run a plug. But if you got that many problems, that track should've never stuck to tape to begin with.

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Just admit that you have never used a decent denoise plugin and call it good.
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I admit that I've never looked at a denoise plugin for more than 30 seconds.

First off, unless I didn't track it, the mix isn't going to have that kind of noise in it to start with. If there are a few pops on a bass DI track, volume automation and slight waveform redraws work fine.
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Gadz! I hate noise reduction plugs. De-essers n noise reduction from Waves are prettty mince IMO. I cant get rid of unwanted noise without taking away high end!

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