hard punchy hip hop kicks

[djclueveli]

what is it that hip hop mixers use to get the kicks to sound real hard n punchy? i tried to do it with a compressor and tried to increase the low end frequency but all it does is make it muddy without adding and BIG punch to it. feedback will be appreciated. thanks

I would think EQ and compression can only get you so far. They probably started with samples that were 'hard' and 'punchy' to begin with.

I would look at getting some better samples.

Then again I don't have any experience with hip hop stuff...

Maybe you post a clip of the sample you're using?

[SouthSIDE Glen]

Start with either a real Roland TR-808 or a high quality first generation sample from the 808. Shop around on the samples, there are some that are not so hot as compared to the "real" 808 sound.

G.

[djclueveli]

yea thats true. also how do i post a clip up here of the sample so you guys can hear it? thanks

[Bulls Hit]

For increased phatness, try blending a couple of samples together

[bigwillz24]

punchy boom huh?

heres the recipe...

1 accoustic kick sample as punchy as you can find.
1 808 kick sample as boomy as you can find.
1 sprinkle of hat sample for attack.

mix those ingredients together for some punchy kick goodness.

Now it's time to bump it up a notch with some eq.

BAM!

Doesn't that smell delicious?

Okay it's looking good now but we can take it a little further.

Let's add a little compression, ah screw it lets add a lot of compression and let's let that sit for about 10 minutes.

put that into one of your mixes for some oh so good punchy kick sound.

[LeeRosario]

It's called analog tape at 15ips.

[bigwillz24]

Originally Posted by LeeRosario

It's called analog tape at 30ips

That's what that Magneto plugin in Cubase is for.

[LeeRosario]

Originally Posted by bigwillz24

That's what that Magneto plugin in Cubase is for.

hmm...know about it, but never used it. How does it match up?

[bigwillz24]

Well I don't have a real tape machine lying around so I really can't compare but I have to say I use that plug on everything.

I track with it on the input channel in Cubase.

I think it sounds great.

[LeeRosario]

Originally Posted by bigwillz24

Well I don't have a real tape machine lying around so I really can't compare but I have to say I use that plug on everything.

I track with it on the input channel in Cubase.

I think it sounds great.

I had read up on it a few times before and I know that it always came in the whole Nuendo bundle, for the times I did work in nuendo. However, couldn't see why I never got into trying it out.

Has me curious now, just to see how it works out.

[X man Da Legend]

To make ur kicks knock they already have to be hard hitting to begin with. The best way to get these drums are sampling them from vinyl records and drum breaks in other songs. I like to run my drums through a maximizer and eq inside of reason and it works really well. Actually on some songs it works too well lol. Also velocity plays a big part in making your drums bang as well. Try layering your kicks with an 808 kick or even sample them from 80s records thats where I get a good amount of my drums from.

[X man Da Legend]

Originally Posted by bigwillz24

punchy boom huh?

heres the recipe...

1 accoustic kick sample as punchy as you can find.
1 808 kick sample as boomy as you can find.
1 sprinkle of hat sample for attack.

mix those ingredients together for some punchy kick goodness.

Now it's time to bump it up a notch with some eq.

BAM!

Doesn't that smell delicious?

Okay it's looking good now but we can take it a little further.

Let's add a little compression, ah screw it lets add a lot of compression and let's let that sit for about 10 minutes.

put that into one of your mixes for some oh so good punchy kick sound.

its also good to add to not over compress. That will kill your dynamics. I personally prefer not to add any compression to my kicks. Most of what needs to happen can be done through eq. Cut the space from other sounds in that frequency and it makes room for your kicks. It sounds louder but in reality everything else is just out of its way.