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New SP mics

Anyone seen the new V2 Studio Projects mics? The only one I've seen was the C1V2 which I'm assuming just means the second version. I noticed it's about 40 bucks more expensive but it does look a bit sexier than it did before.
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Yeah, I noticed them 2 days ago. They do look much better. They have a sleeker look.
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Do they ever update the website? Because all I see there are the same old B and C series mics.
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Howzabout you Jackholes post a link so we can all peek, eh?
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they're in the most recent American Musical Supply catalog, so they should be online too. check out www.americanmusical.com.


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I believe all the photos at the Studio Projects USA site are the new models. They all have the new badges.

http://www.studioprojectsusa.com/

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I believe all the photos at the Studio Projects USA site are the new models. They all have the new badges.

http://www.studioprojectsusa.com/

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i got an email about this the other day. old mics are marked down (b1s for $80, c4s for something like $225, etc). i guess i signed up for their email list or something.
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Are studio projects mics as good as their preamps? I want to get a condenser mic and I was going to get the AKG perception 200 large diaphragm but would the SP B1 be a better deal since its marked down

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I kinda liked the look of the older ones better.

And you'd think if they were going to change the looks of something, they would've worked on the vtb-1 first.
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I kinda liked the look of the older ones better.

And you'd think if they were going to change the looks of something, they would've worked on the vtb-1 first.
nah...VTB1 is so ugly its cool... we like it the way it is...
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Hi Alan,

Would it be fair to characterize the new mics as having a less shrill
high end?
And, is it true that the new version of the vtb1 pre-amp has been put
on hold because you have changed designers? If so, when do you
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Well, I guess you should know better than I

what your target market is.

It just seems so Radio Shack project box-ish to me. But if that's part of the mojo, hey, who am I to say?

I still like the previous look for the mics, but I guess I'm in the minority. Oh, well, I'm used to it.

So what are the 'improved electronics'?
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So what are the 'improved electronics'?

Hopefully, they come with the "Dorsey Mod" off the shelf.

Did I guess right Alan?
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a new pretty sticker and a higher price for SP, nice
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Yeah, I noticed them 2 days ago. They do look much better. They have a sleeker look.
The don't look any sleeker to me. They look basically the same only with a new badge.
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Hopefully, they come with the "Dorsey Mod" off the shelf.

Did I guess right Alan?
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What is the "Dorsey mod", and what mic(s) does it apply to? I like my original B1's and B3 just the way I received them.
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Wow, lots of questions, and I am happy to answer them. First of all, let me list what the changes are;

1. Higher Polarity Voltage to the capsule: Lowers noise floor by 10dB
2. New frequency tension on capsule: Smoother response in the low end
3. Updates to components using higher quality polystyrene components
4. Lower resonance body: Less artifacts from reflections
5. New Head grill design: More air over capsule for better sound
6. Stronger reinforced mesh over capsule: Prevents damage from accidents
7. New SP Halo Shockmount: A better, more flexible shockmount system that allows multiple mics to be mounted from a single source point
8. Higher output: More gain to the mic amp.

Now, to us, this has been a good amount of upgrades, but it is still in the budget range of dollars, so we are not making general comparisons to anything. We just like the new sound and performance better.

The new Halo Shock mount system will be available for other microphone brands that use a threaded mount. This new shockmount designed by us is not cheap at $189.99, but is included in the C1, C3, and T3. So yes, we have raised the price, but you get much more, and all models are RoHS and WEEE compliant.

Not looking to start a fight here, but Chessrock mentioned the Scott Dorsey mod. No, we do not use his mod because his mod is not very good and flawed. There is no adjustment for the bias to the voltage for the rails on his mod, specifically his old mod that was going around these boards. We do not put much into that mod, but others seem to pass it around. Scott is not a mic designer and should know this mod has issues. I hope this does not start a rampage, but it had to be said and it is "our or my opinion".

What we are excited about will be the new C4's and the new CS1 and CS5 that will ship in January. We have done all the budget mics we can do, and now we move up market with the mics.

VTB-2 - Sometimes you have to put things aside because better things are happening. Nothing I can discuss now, but the VTB-2 has been shelved for now.

New photos are on the site, so some of you may have to refresh your browser if cookies were set to see the new pics.

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What we are excited about will be the new C4's and the new CS1 and CS5 that will ship in January.
Hi Alan,

What would the specs be for the CS1, esp. self-noise? What is it particularly designed for?

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Not looking to start a fight here, but Chessrock mentioned the Scott Dorsey mod. No, we do not use his mod because his mod is not very good and flawed. There is no adjustment for the bias to the voltage for the rails on his mod, specifically his old mod that was going around these boards. We do not put much into that mod, but others seem to pass it around. Scott is not a mic designer and should know this mod has issues. I hope this does not start a rampage, but it had to be said and it is "our or my opinion".
I don't think it is something to start a fight, as what you say is true (at least IMO).

Although "Scott Dorsey's mod" might be an improvement over some mics, generally speaking, it is not a very good design. Based on a famous Schoeps circuit, his design is much simplified and in that appearance was used in many Chinese mics, with slight modifications. In fact, I don't see a good reason of building it, as you could as well to buy a mic with the circuit already incorporated.

What you get with this very simple circuit is restricted bass response, dry and lifeless 2D sound, and limited SPL handling.

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