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Editing the Wav File?

Hey guys, I've been trying to track some acoustic guitar...at one point i juts coem in a little early with my accentuation. When I try and cut and move, its severely noticeable. I try and set up a crossfade and fade just rior to the cut and quickly fade back in, but it sounds terrible! What am I doing wrong?
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cut at precise points. cut before and after any peaks around the note that you're moving. don't cut in the middle of a peak. zoom in on the wave form to make it easier.
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I do that alright, and it seems like it should be easy enough, though there seems to a noticeable difference where the track is cut...could this be from using compression?
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Compression should'nt do anything like that, as long as the compression is applied to the entire track. If you're cutting mid note/chord (like a sustained chord), it's going to be alot more noticeable. Can you post a clip of the section you're working on?
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Editing acoustic guitar is a pain. Timing mistakes have to be fixed using time stretching techniques.
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Thanks Far....can ya explain a little more about time stretching? I think the problem with aocustic is that you rarely strum one sustaining chord...rhythms are constant, even if its just palm mutes or an upstroke or whatever.
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The big problem is nothing is consistant, the sound of a string changes as it decays so you can't cut and crossfade it without it sounding strange.

In Nuendo/Cubase there is a time stretching option, I just use that. You will have to check the manual for your software to see if you have it.

What you do is: Cut the part before the transients (the notes), move them to where they need to be, then stretch the audio to fill in the gaps and crossfade.
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The big problem is nothing is consistant, the sound of a string changes as it decays so you can't cut and crossfade it without it sounding strange.

In Nuendo/Cubase there is a time stretching option, I just use that. You will have to check the manual for your software to see if you have it.

What you do is: Cut the part before the transients (the notes), move them to where they need to be, then stretch the audio to fill in the gaps and crossfade.
I have Cubase, ill look at the glossary.
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If you have SX, you just hit the arrow tool button until the cursor has a little clock attached to it. Then just pull the audio. That's it.
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If you have SX, you just hit the arrow tool button until the cursor has a little clock attached to it. Then just pull the audio. That's it.
Cool! I did not know that.
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