Signal Routing patchbays in series and parallel

[walters]

I have my behringer Patch bay like this
inputs,sends,returns,outputs? without normalizing the signal flow no normalizing

How can i set up the patch bay so i can put the sends and returns in "series" or in "parallel"?

I have 8 processors each going to their own send and returns so how can i use the patch bay
so i can route the sends and returns to either in series with the dry signal or in parallel with the dry signal?

Patch Bay to split the dry signal into 5 to 7 outputs so i can do layering?

Patch Bay input:
1.) a input to "switch" from Stereo,Mono,dual mono, criss-cross stereo "(input)"

How can i add these mode switch to my patch bay please?

Patch Bay output:
1.) a output with "mode switch" from stereo,mono,dual mono,criss cross stereo "(output)"

I need a special switch box to do this before and after the patch bay?

How many patch bay points/jacks would i need to do this please?

[walters]

Patch Bay 2 or 3 Parallel effects

taking 2 sends and 2 returns from 2 effects processors and putting them in parallel with eachother with a patch bay how can i do this please?

I'm trying to make my source and destinations inputs,outputs,sends,returns able to put in series or in parallel with eachother

And Able to put the sends or returns in merge,criss cross,dual mono,mono,stereo each send and return to do this how can i do this and how many jack/points would i need to do this please?

[ez_willis]

Originally Posted by walters

I'm trying to make my source and destinations inputs,outputs,sends,returns able to put in series or in parallel with eachother

And Able to put the sends or returns in merge,criss cross,dual mono,mono,stereo each send and return to do this

Why? ?

[MOFO Pro]

Sounds more like you need a mixer more than a patch bay...

[walters]

i need a matrix digital mixer with matrix outputs and advance routing matrix right?

I seen console and mixing boards with matrix outputs what do they use them for ?

[ez_willis]

Originally Posted by walters

i need a matrix digital mixer with matrix outputs and advance routing matrix right?

I seen console and mixing boards with matrix outputs what do they use them for ?

Since the matrix is Jitter’s focus, it is not surprising that the majority of Jitter objects fall in this category of Matrix Operators. Every Matrix operator has some number of matrix inputs and some number of matrix outputs. Matrix inputs are referred to by the names "in", "in2", "in3", etc., from left to right, and matrix outputs are referred to by the names "out", "out2", "out3", etc., from left to right--i.e. the names are appended by the input/output number except for the first (leftmost) input and first (leftmost) output which are simply named "in" and "out". We will refer to the input or output name names as the "i/o-name".

Matrix inputs and outputs typically each have their own matrices internally where information is kept. This is necessary because Jitter is an asynchronous framework (i.e. all the matrices don’t arrive at all inputs at the same time). Various aspects of matrix inputs and outputs can be set using the command [i/o-name] combined with one of the following suffixes: "_dim" which will set the dimensions of the specified i/o matrix, "_type" which will set the type of the specified matrix, "_planecount" which will set the plane of the specified matrix, or "_name" which will set the name of the specified matrix. There is one special case which does not have an internal matrix and this is the first input "in". This is the case since this special input actually triggers the calculation of the matrix operator, so it doesn’t need to be cached until a calulation takes place, unlike the other inputs. Therefore there is no mechanism to set the dim, planecount, type, or name of "in".

Matrix operators accept what we’ll refer to as "matrix args"--i.e. [planecount (int)] [type (symbol)] [dim (int list)]. if these arguments are present, the adapt attribute will be turned off, otherwise it will be turned on. If adapt mode is turned on, each time a matrix is received in the first input, there will also be the equivalent of setting the dim, planecount, and type attributes to that of the input matrix. If the other inputs and outputs are linked to these attributes, this will affect their linked attributes as well. See the "MOP" table to determine which inputs and outputs will be linked to which attributes when adapt mode is turned on. For the leftmost input this is not applicable, and hence all columns are labelled "n/a".

[BigRay]

Originally Posted by walters

i need a matrix digital mixer with matrix outputs and advance routing matrix right?

I seen console and mixing boards with matrix outputs what do they use them for ?

what you need is to contract a terminal illness. but that is another thread.

[MOFO Pro]

Great Post EZ...

I've always had a problem wrapping my arms around the concept of a advanced matrix mixing... So clear... concise... I wonder why it was so hard to grasp in the first place

[walters]

What digital mixer or patch bay can do all these options please?

[ez_willis]

Originally Posted by walters

What digital mixer or patch bay can do all these options please?

You're in luck today, walters.

I have just what you're looking for, but first you must tell me how you found this place?

[Arthur]

Lol I cannot believe it... the infamous Walters from Gearslutz. I especially dug up my years old login to see this!
Well, one can still believe in miracles