Desperate

[emileeie]

I just bought sound forge 8 and I don't have a clue how to use anything on it. The manual is too confusing for me since I haven't a clue on any "recording terms". I want to extract the vocal from a mp3 I have and record over it my voice. Can anyone please explain to me in very simple words as to how I might go about doing this??

[Massive Master]

If you can't understand the manual, you aren't going to understand how to do much of anything else if someone explains it to you.

You also aren't going to have a very easy time extracting vocals from a mixed track -

You also aren't going to be able to record vocals over the track using Sound Forge. It's a stereo track editor - Not a multi-track recording program.

[Monkey Allen]

How about you explain in very simple terms what you mean by:

"I want to extract the vocal from a mp3 I have and record over it my voice."

[emileeie]

if you aren't going to help, don't bother posting that if i can't understand the manual nobody can help. i am obviously new that is why i posted under this.

[emileeie]

i just want to take out the singer's voice so all there is is the music and record my voice with the music in the background

Originally Posted by Monkey Allen

How about you explain in very simple terms what you mean by:

"I want to extract the vocal from a mp3 I have and record over it my voice."

[studiomaster]

go to www.tweakheadz.com and learn the basics first. cause simply you have no clue as to what you're doing. why would you not read some info about a software and then buy it?

educate yourself.

[jonnyc]

Originally Posted by emileeie

if you aren't going to help, don't bother posting that if i can't understand the manual nobody can help. i am obviously new that is why i posted under this.

Watch your tone, Massive is super nice and super helpful. He pretty much told you that what you want to do isn't going to happen. Taking those vocals out of a song is going to be pretty much impossible. Try to educate yourself instead of relying on the world to hold you hand through life.

[emileeie]

I know that I need to educate myself. to me, massive doesn't seem like he was trying to help and neither were you with that little quote of yours. like i said i didnt understand the manual. you can at least direct me somewhat of what to do nicely like what studio master did.

[Massive Master]

Well, it isn't completely impossible to make a track that doesn't suck horrifically, but if he doesn't understand things like "polarity reversal" - "mono summing" - "parallel processing" - "EQ automation" (you know - Things you learn right away when you start learning audio engineering) - *AND* how to perform them with fairly intricate detail - Nothing I can tell him is going to help.

[emileeie]

I know i don't know those words and i didnt think i needed to when i asked my question. i found something that teaches you how to extract vocal step but step...
1) Open the original audio file.
2) Choose Edit > Select All to select all the data in the file.
3) Choose Process > Pan/Expand.
4) In the Pan/Expand dialog box, choose the Normal Mix Of MS Recording preset.
5) Click OK.
6) Choose Edit > Selection > Set.
7) Choose Left in the Channel parameter drop-down list.
8) Click OK.
9) Choose Edit > Copy.
10) Choose Edit > Paste Special > Paste To New.
11) Save your new audio.
The problem is is that it didnt work with this version so i was jsut wondering if anyone knew how to tell me a step by step version liek the above of how to do it.

[c7sus]

You're not going to be able to pull the vocal out of an MP3 and dub it into some other tune.

Sorry, digital audio doesn't work like that.

Did I use terms you can understand???

[studiomaster]

Yeah...music making would have been a lot easier then....but that's not the case.

[Nick_Black]

sound forge 8 dosn't seem to be desingned for removing vocals, i saw some free (demo) software specificaly designed for that purpoe, but I would be suprised if the abouve people were wrong, you might wan't to try recording your own voice on a seperate track, and the reverse the polarity (sorry I don't know a "simpler" term for that, it's cinda like flipping the track "upside down" cancalling out the "right side up version" <note this is not a definition, but a real definition is even more confusing) in hopes of canceling it out

but you would have to sing exsacly the same as the original voice to do so, and i'm still not shure if that would work (i have never tried it, i know it works for getting rid of a click track that might have bled true the headphones) but since i hate taking other people's work i heve never tried it before with vocals

[RideTheCrash]

You can't pull out the vocal track. Period.

What you're probably trying to use just removes the center frequencies of the track, pulling out elements that usually end up in the middle (i.e. snare, kick, bass). You can sometimes do it that way, but the track will sound pretty bad after it (because you're pulling out more than just vocals).

The only real way to pull the vocals is to have the multitrack of the song. Which means all the individual tracks that make up the song. Which usually only the studio has their hands on.

[maestro_dmc]

Originally Posted by emileeie

i just want to take out the singer's voice so all there is is the music and record my voice with the music in the background

There are ways to do this with most DAW programs, but there is no ONE program, or setting that will work on every song.

I had pretty usable results removing vocals from the Mamas and The Papas "dancin' in the streets". It worked on that song because the vocal was panned dead center, the reverb was mono, and all the instruments were hard panned.

The technique will only work on "stereo" tracks, mono tracks will only produce silence.

Now if I just used terms that you didn't understand, then you can see why it's hard to explain without a common "lingo"

The Tweakheadz suggestion is a great one. Devote yourself to a little reading.