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[TragikRemix]

I have limited space to work with here.

im sporting an acoustic drum kit, and electric kit
bass half stack, guitar half stack, guitar tube combo amp,
6 guitars, PA system, besides the recording equiptment.

im thinking of construction now; drum iso room is a must, and vocal booth is a must. control room would be SPLENDID!

ok, so i took out the guitar half stack, im not using it for recording. i think the bass amp is goin too, im going DI. so now i just have a guitar combo amp, which i love the sound and is staying. the PA system, i guess i'll take it out of the room too.

now; how big would the control room have to be to be able to obtain a noticable difference in acoustics? i have some foam on the wall behind my desk/keyboard, but its wide open to the rest in front. i really have to close it off i think. check out the pictures and see what you guys think.

i will be putting in bass traps (703) and some more auralex foam, in the control room, and the iso rooms, i'm already familiar with all of that info (i read ethan winers thing 4 times..)
existing setup


possibilities;

[TragikRemix]

oh yeah, the window leaks like hell during the rain, so the drums are going to be a couple inches off the ground. i'd rather not have anything right there by the window.

for that matter, everything will be a couple inches off the ground, because in very heavy rain, evrything leaks and i have to evacuate the room. theres too much stuff now; i cant do that anymore.

[travelin travis]

make your pics a little bigger (can't read alot of the print). save as a .png if you can.

[TragikRemix]

Originally Posted by TravisinFlorida

make your pics a little bigger (can't read alot of the print). save as a .png if you can.

[travelin travis]

if i had that room i would leave it open. it's 21 feet long, which should be pretty decent as a mixing room. unless you do major construction, you're not going to get those drums completely isolated from the rest of the room. even if you did manage to isolate the drums, they'll sound like crap in a cramped space. leaving the room open would allow you to get a decent drum sound and make for a pretty good mixing room. unless you have some kind of moderate to loud noise getting into the room, i would'nt put up a vocal booth either. you could spend some money on acoustic treatment for the room and have a good sounding combined tracking/mixing room. just my opinion.

[TragikRemix]

well the mixing desk is just about where the 'control' is written, with my back towards the closest wall. the monitors are about 6ft away from the back wall.

im not looking for complete isolation, just figured it would be easier to control the acoustics if it were a smaller room. should i face the drums into the wall, or into the open? right now, they are about centered between the 21ft wall, with the drummers back right up against that single 21ft straight wall.

www.geocities.com/vschiano2008/drumbounce.mp3

thats my best drum sound so far, and im not happy with it. im selling my old hi hats and changing them up for something better.

ive been using the vdrums with DFH and its good, but fake.. plus, its hard to play on the vdrums.

[Rod Gervais]

Originally Posted by TragikRemix

just figured it would be easier to control the acoustics if it were a smaller room.

Remix,

you figured that completely backwards..

It is much harder to control acoustic problems in small rooms - as a matter of fact - the smaller the room the GREATER the acoustic problems you have - make a room large enough and you approach (or even reach) free-field acoustics - where there are no problems with boundary reflection - flutter echo - room modes - etc., etc., etc.

Perhaps it's time to rethink this..........

Sincerely,

Rod