Micing up a BIG drum set...Need help A.S.A.P Please!!

[Thrasher]

Hey, my drummer plays on a rather large drum set. He uses 2 kicks, 4 toms, and multiple cymbals. I am going to be recording them in a few days. I have miced them before, but i need to know how i can get the right sound out of a set this size. I'm using Apex mics. 3 tom mics, 2 kick mics, 2 condensers (all Apex). This is for a heavy metal band, so we're looking for a Slayer type sounding drum set. My dream souding set can be found in a band called Threat Signal ( www.myspace.com/threatsignal ) for sound samples. I would love to get something close to this but im not exactly sure how to set up everything. Where should blankets be used? Should I hang anything up around the kit to help? Any suggestions are appretiated. Thanks.

[dgatwood]

Originally Posted by Thrasher

Hey, my drummer plays on a rather large drum set. He uses 2 kicks, 4 toms, and multiple cymbals. I am going to be recording them in a few days. I have miced them before, but i need to know how i can get the right sound out of a set this size. I'm using Apex mics. 3 tom mics, 2 kick mics, 2 condensers (all Apex). This is for a heavy metal band, so we're looking for a Slayer type sounding drum set. My dream souding set can be found in a band called Threat Signal ( www.myspace.com/threatsignal ) for sound samples. I would love to get something close to this but im not exactly sure how to set up everything. Where should blankets be used? Should I hang anything up around the kit to help? Any suggestions are appretiated. Thanks.

Kick mic on the two kicks, tom mic on the floor tom, two tom mics in an X/Y below the rack toms (unless you can find another tom mic), find yourself an SM57 or something for the snare. Use the two condensers as overheads. Experiment with whether the kick mic sounds better inside the drum near the batter or outside. Experiment with how high to put the overheads. Bring them lower if you have too much cymbals and not enough toms.

Don't use blankets or hang anything if you can help it. Try to record in a room with a high ceiling if you can. Only resort to blankets if you are recording in a garage with a concrete floor or something, in which case you should use it to cover most of the floor.

[Minion]

It might be hard to get the "Slayer" drum sound useing just Mics because Most of the newer stuff uses Triggers for the recordings at least on the Bass drums, That is how they get that nice heavey thwack sound out of the Bass drum.....

Triggers for the bass drum sound pretty good but you can also trigger other Parts of the kit.....

Cheers

[TheBigGiantHead]

Start with real mics.

[slidey]

Originally Posted by TheBigGiantHead

Start with real mics.

eloquent as usual

[PhilGood]

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[Swamp Gas]

Just put him on the ignore list. That way you don't have to see his crap. He has no real advice, and nothing to add. I want him dead. Can someone help me trace his location through his ISP?

[TheBigGiantHead]

Originally Posted by PhilGood

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He/she/it has a personality disorder. He's sick and needs help. This is a disease.

The only way to make them stop is to ignore them or ask them to seek couseling.
That's why the phrase "Do not feed the trolls" exists.

Don't give TheBigGiantHead any more "Troll Chow"!

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[TheBigGiantHead]

Originally Posted by Swamp Gas

Just put him on the ignore list. That way you don't have to see his crap. He has no real advice, and nothing to add. I want him dead. Can someone help me trace his location through his ISP?

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[Swamp Gas]

Sorry Asshat, I can't see your reply!

[TheBigGiantHead]

Yet...here you are.