Asking for Guidance

[DesertEase]

Does anyone know where I can get a hold of some nice drums or bass that can give me that explosive shit you hear in top producers beats, cuz the kicks and basses that are pre-installed on programs are just lacking of that and I haven't been able to find any. Also if anyone is familiar with flstudio then you must know what the buzz generator is and i use voidlead for my bass, on my speakers it sounds real deep and hits hard and it sounds right where it needs to be but when i make a cd of it and i play it on other stereos it's either too much or not there at all, can anyone help?

[50cal]

your monitors suck ass..as far as drums sample from vinyl...bass get a nice keyboard or program with nice bass

[DesertEase]

have any recommendations on wut type of keyboard i should get? or monitors?right now i have 4 300w speakers hooked up

[50cal]

4 300w speakers....what ya take the speakers out your car?haha...when making a thread for advice its always best to be a bit more detailed.like what your budget,genre,goals ,current set-up

[DesertEase]

ok i have a casio keyboard hooked up to a tascam us-122 hooked up to my dell xps which is hooked up to my stereo with 4 on the floor 300w speakers. the bass shakes this whole place and it sounds real good but i burn cd's and it's like the bass is gone on other stereo systems

[REEK BROCK]

Get the cheapest heaphones you can find.That will simulate the worst source your music will be heard on .If you acn make it sound good on those you will be alot closer to what you are trying to accomplish. You need to search for soundfonts and vst modules.i dont have monitors so i had your problem.Its a lot of free stuff on the net but the best stuff you have to pay for.just about any midi controller keyboard will do.I don't even have one.I'm using my computer keyboard.Just collect sounds and practice and play what you like.

[DesertEase]

Ok I will do that thanks. Reek Brock ya beats are insane, what do you use when you compose?

[BALKI]

These cats ain't gonna help you. If i were you i'd just do alot of reading and researching everyday like i'm doing & learn yourself. Do you actually think these cats are gonna help you so you could be better than them at what they do i doubt it. If i were you get you a keyboard workstation where you do everything inside the box. I have the motif 6 and it has everything. It has a built in sequencer,sythn,sampler. All you have to do is load in drum samples which i'm bout to do. You can buy drum sound kits off the net & then load em into your motif and away you go. You'll have the sickest keys and tight ass drums at your expense. I say fuck software! I'm doing everything inside this keybaord. Get you the motif 6 man it's a sick ass piece!

Also after you get the motif get you the m-audio trigger finger to add to it so you can punch in your drums off the pads and not your keyboard. That's what i'm bout to do.

[bknot1]

^^^ they are helping him..everyone gets help in here when the right questions are asked..do not post negative replies that no one is goin to help him..

we give information from off information we get..he was told his monitor system was good..and told a way to check it..and was told where to get drums and whatever from.

[djhead]

Originally Posted by REEK BROCK

Get the cheapest heaphones you can find.That will simulate the worst source your music will be heard on .If you acn make it sound good on those you will be alot closer to what you are trying to accomplish. .

I have to respectfully disaggree with you here. There is no way headphones will ever even near the accuracy of monitors. Ix you mix it good in phones, it will probably have flat bass and very tinny mid-highs in a real stereo.

Just my .02

[50cal]

yeah people are down too help,and me i want to help...I may give my opinion and also send a link for people to do some research,but Im just asking for more info to better help him.

DesertEase.....Monitors are one of the most important pieces of equipment you will ever buy,whether you are making beats,mixing,or mastering.In laymans terms...the speakers you currently use have components in them that help you hear bass frequencies that are lower..it sort of compensates for the lack of...the same can be said for mids and hi.A good monitor is gonna be neutral what you hear is the truth..it doesnt over exagerate and compensate for bass.Now you dont have to spend $8000 on some monitors(although you could) as far as budget for about$200 the krk rokit 5 are a good deal.when looking for monitors there are active and passive....the rokit are active and dont need an amplifier it has its own built in,a passive needs a seperate amplifier.Im stating this so if you shop you keep this in mind so you stay with in budget...now i dont know everything there is to know about monitors but what little i gave you should be a start.You can buy all the best programs in the world and if you cant mix it down right you will have the sam problems....I personally dont use any software..but it seems like you are on a budget and are going that route...so there are many reccomendations but it all costs money so thats also why i ask what kind of budget you working with.

[REEK BROCK]

Originally Posted by djhead

I have to respectfully disaggree with you here. There is no way headphones will ever even near the accuracy of monitors. Ix you mix it good in phones, it will probably have flat bass and very tinny mid-highs in a real stereo.

Just my .02

You're right but thats an inexpensive way to go since he doesnt have monitors yet.i don't know if he can afford them but iknow he can get some $10 headphones at the corner drug store.Its a start.

[DesertEase]

Thanx for ya help guys i'mma invest in some monitors the budget is up and down like everyone but it's nuttin and can't get over in a few weeks as long as it's 2,000 or below i'm really interested in that mpc 2500 and that korg d3200 so if anyone has used them let me know to cop em or not cuz really the software is ight to use but the sounds are really lacking ya know? idk if ya'll heard some of my beats or not but u can check em out at www.myspace.com/desertease and let me know wut ya think. I personally think something is missing but maybe it's just the quality of the sounds? holla at me

[Trumpspade]

Yeah Balki, You have been here for a minute or two and I am sure you have gained some knowledge. That's like a low blow dissing those who have rendered help or opinions to those in need. That's madd disrespectful lil Man! I can actually say that you have disrespected the board and all that it represents. In the hood, dudes are missing for things like that!
You wrong duke!

[Trumpspade]

Actually, I just peeped your other thread and I see where the bitterness came from.......Don't be mad when dudes critique you beats, you're not that nice! Actually, room for plenty of improvement. (Don't let your homeys jocking..... Fool Ya!)

[50cal]

Originally Posted by DesertEase

Thanx for ya help guys i'mma invest in some monitors the budget is up and down like everyone but it's nuttin and can't get over in a few weeks as long as it's 2,000 or below i'm really interested in that mpc 2500 and that korg d3200 so if anyone has used them let me know to cop em or not cuz really the software is ight to use but the sounds are really lacking ya know? idk if ya'll heard some of my beats or not but u can check em out at www.myspace.com/desertease and let me know wut ya think. I personally think something is missing but maybe it's just the quality of the sounds? holla at me

Look into a used mpc3000 or 2000xl for about 1000 for a 3000 and 500-700 for a 2000xl on ebay...then get a sound module like fantomx for about 800 or a few older good models like roland 1080 and proteus2000 for about 200 each on ebay..so if you can find a 2000 for about500 and them two modules about 300 for some monitors you might have about 800 left...and you will have a good arsenal in front of you....I guarantee you will notice a huge difference wu=ith that right there.the drums are capable og bangin hard and the sounds are real good on both those modules,

[DesertEase]

Yo good lookin out 50cal i appreciate ya help and i peeped ya myspace and that shit is ill. That watcha ride fo joint is off the chain i listened to it like 5 times. Dem beats is proper.

[50cal]

Originally Posted by DesertEase

Yo good lookin out 50cal i appreciate ya help and i peeped ya myspace and that shit is ill. That watcha ride fo joint is off the chain i listened to it like 5 times. Dem beats is proper.

yeah just some of the projects im putting together..but my boy raw steel did the beat as well as unordinary love and the other two produced by slikk rikk..I make beats as a hobby Ill probably post something up here sometime.

[tone_aot]

Originally Posted by BALKI

These cats ain't gonna help you. If i were you i'd just do alot of reading and researching everyday like i'm doing & learn yourself. Do you actually think these cats are gonna help you so you could be better than them at what they do i doubt it. If i were you get you a keyboard workstation where you do everything inside the box. I have the motif 6 and it has everything. It has a built in sequencer,sythn,sampler. All you have to do is load in drum samples which i'm bout to do. You can buy drum sound kits off the net & then load em into your motif and away you go. You'll have the sickest keys and tight ass drums at your expense. I say fuck software! I'm doing everything inside this keybaord. Get you the motif 6 man it's a sick ass piece!

Also after you get the motif get you the m-audio trigger finger to add to it so you can punch in your drums off the pads and not your keyboard. That's what i'm bout to do.

Man you trippin dude. This is the best place to come for info on production. These dudes in here are real with you and they actually help you. As far as hardware, everybody has there preference. I've been a musician for 18 years and i use software because of the limitless channels you can have and i can split my tracks for mixing. Nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with your way either, but you can't come in here bashing everybody's method. Regardless, i might look at that motif 6 tho. I use the triton le but i hate the drums. I'm bout to read up on that upgrade tho so maybe i'll be able to upload drums if i buy that. Everything i said was all in love bro. Stay up pimpin.

[BALKI]

Lol dude we know your lying . I've been a musician for 18 years? Don't tell me you were making beats when you were 3 years old. Why in the fuck would you spend alot of money on the triton le and not use all it's features? You said you use fruity loops. Why pay so much on a keybaord workstation when you don't even use it's own built in sequencer or sampler? Doesn't make any sense at all.

[freshlysqueezed]

Originally Posted by BALKI

Lol dude we know your lying . I've been a musician for 18 years? Don't tell me you were making beats when you were 3 years old. Why in the fuck would you spend alot of money on the triton le and not use all it's features? You said you use fruity loops. Why pay so much on a keybaord workstation when you don't even use it's own built in sequencer or sampler? Doesn't make any sense at all.

Dude if your gonna start trouble don't even post. Who cares if he does or does not use everything at his disposal. Most of the reposonse here I've seen when someone needs help have always been postive ones. Even though I don't post here very often I check out the boards a lot and get great insight on different styles of beatmaking, and different approaches that I can take to make my music better. I don't care what reason you have for hating on this forum, your shit-talking is inexcusable. PLenty of people here like Change, Red Cross, B-Knot and Peritus(where is he anyways?) have been giving everyone a great resource. You can take their criticism with a grain of salt or you can put it to good use and learn something man. Cuz thats what most of us are here to learn. This group is like a family, and its great that its like that cuz the music business is a tough game. We all wanna make it, and this is one of the only places where you see the commrodarie(sp?) of people with a common goal. Do us a favor and if you wanna hate just don't say anything. We don't need your negativity here.

P.S. Before you reply back with a whole string of Fucks and shits at my post remember that you are only making yourself look worse and making people wanna help you less.

[Fieva]

I have to agree there. No reason to hate on anybody really. If I see where something someone did could use a little (or a lot) of suggestion, that's what I do....even with those I've become friends with. Hell, I think I'm harder on my homies than I am on people I'm not as close with. Why? Because they know where I'm coming from and they know I'll give them honesty whether I like what they do or not.

Balki, I'm not even gonna hate on you, it's really not worth it , got better stuff to do, it's really not my style and also doesn't help me or you. But I do disagree with your opinions on things. It might be a totally different visual from where you sit, but with me, I see it as we all have strengths and weaknesses here and we're all doing our own thing so it doesn't hurt us to help other folks out. You never know when it just might pay off or something.

As far as using everything at your disposal goes, I know I don't, but just having the options there for me to use (even if it's just using those rare options to make a beat to throw you off) is worth it to me to have.

Just my $0.05 cause I'm charging tax on the $0.02

[BALKI]

lol Who the fuck are you captain save a post? Cmon dude I'm pretty sure pple on here can speak for themselves. I'll be sure to post more on this forum in the future if you like it or not. I'm just giving my 2 cents on here also if you don't like it don't respond bk simple as that.I'll say it again. why? in the fuck are you going to waste all your money on a keyboard workstaion, but don't use the sequencer or sampler it has in it? Lol it's not my money I'm waisting. Have a nice day.

[50cal]

Originally Posted by BALKI

lol Who the fuck are you captain save a post? Cmon dude I'm pretty sure pple on here can speak for themselves. I'll be sure to post more on this forum in the future if you like it or not. I'm just giving my 2 cents on here also if you don't like it don't respond bk simple as that.I'll say it again. why? in the fuck are you going to waste all your money on a keyboard workstaion, but don't use the sequencer or sampler it has in it? Lol it's not my money I'm waisting. Have a nice day.

I posted before a list of equipment my boy has.....Ill list from my memory
asr-10
sp1200
mpc3000
mpc4000
mv8000
asrx
motif es keyboard
fantomx keyboard
triton keyboard
Vsynth keyboard
voyager
atcx
se1
ms2000
waldorf q
emu e4xt
proteus2000
supernova
s2000
thats all I can think of right now.....but to prove a point on the keyboard workstations he doesnt sample or use the sequencers.....ever.

[tone_aot]

Originally Posted by BALKI

Lol dude we know your lying . I've been a musician for 18 years? Don't tell me you were making beats when you were 3 years old. Why in the fuck would you spend alot of money on the triton le and not use all it's features? You said you use fruity loops. Why pay so much on a keybaord workstation when you don't even use it's own built in sequencer or sampler? Doesn't make any sense at all.

You really know how to get someone mad!! I started playing PIANO at age three. I basically listened to alot of songs and picked them up by ear. I didn't start making what you call "beats" until i was like 10. I didn't buy the triton, my church did and they let me use it as i please. I use fruity loops because i like it's sequencing capabillites. I do use the Triton's sequencing but i don't like being responsible for a $1200 piece of equipment all the time so i don't take it home alot. As for you, you are an ignorant piece of trash who doesn't deserve to be a member of this site. I'm one of the coolest tempered guys around but you really ticked me off with that dumn statement. You don't know a darn thing about me and you need to use your stagnant brain before you think about saying anything else to me. You are on ignore ignoramous! Now, back to the beats!