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Old 05-22-2006
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Line6 POD question

I was looking into buying a Line6 POD for some direct recording. I am not happy in the least bit with my SM-57 pointed at my fender Bassman. Way too muddy and I just can't get it right.

Can the POD be plugged directly into my interface without an amp and still have sufficient volume? I've had issues with my BOSS Gt-6 plugging directly into my interface (M-Audio Fastrack) and having very low volume.

Also, does anyone have any experience with using a bass guitar through a POD? I don't have a bass amp, so I'd like to kill two birds with one stone, here.
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POD was Designed specifiacally for what you are talking about, If you notice the pod is called a "direct box" witch means it was designed to be in the middle of your guitar and your interface(fast track). This is called "direct recording" witch means recording guitar by plugging strait into your interface without micing amps. You should get great sounds, POD is pretty much the best direct box. It also turns your average amp into a beast!! nothing compares to micing amps though :-(
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POD was Designed specifiacally for what you are talking about, If you notice the pod is called a "direct box" witch means it was designed to be in the middle of your guitar and your interface(fast track). This is called "direct recording" witch means recording guitar by plugging strait into your interface without micing amps. You should get great sounds, POD is pretty much the best direct box. It also turns your average amp into a beast!! nothing compares to micing amps though :-(
you could also send the pod to the bassman & experiment micing as well

I disagree with audiophilez when he says nothing compares...............I've been using line six gear almost from day 1 & I've had results where people wouldn't believe there was no amp.........................I mic amps a lot as well as using the direct recording

& basses work well through a pod bot to be honest I tend to DI my basses
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Yep, everything Slidey says and......

With a PodXT you don't even need the interface as you can just USB in @ 24 bit !
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I am not happy in the least bit with my SM-57 pointed at my fender Bassman.
What kind of guitar?

If you can't get a Bassman mic'ed up with a 57 to sound good it may be something other than those two things.
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If you can't get a Bassman mic'ed up with a 57 to sound good it may be something other than those two things.
Yeah you should try to fiddle around with your micing positions. Textbook says its supposed to be in the middle of the speaker cone.
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I have had good luck using my POD and micing my amp, then blending that into one track. I have no idea what you are looking for as far as sound, but here's an intro to a tune I am working on.....Intro

I haven't eq'd this yet, and may not. It starts with one guitar, then a second comes in. I have a crappy, 20+ year old Carvin amp, and it doesn't sound that good, but working with teh 2 tracks seems to help.
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Hello guitarmunkus! BUY THE POD!!! I have been using line6 for about 7 years now (since the 2.0 series came out) I even switched to using line6 amps onstage!
OK that's my opinion I admit it. But you would be very suprised at who uses a pod in the studio (including old fashioned jazz greats!) and what albums you HAVE heard that are just POD's direct with no amps. I have not heard a single famous producer talk down to a POD most of them love em.

I will say that every time I record a band/guitarist. I mic the amp on at least 2 tracks and run my POD PRO direct to 2 tracks. I will always bring the band/guitarist into the control room and solo the amp tracks then the pod tracks and ask them which ones they want as the main tracks and which ones they want me to put effects on and wash into the stereo field. EVERY SINGLE TIME!!! not usually, I kid you not every single time they pick the POD tracks over the mic's. So to say "nothing compares to micing amps" may not be entirely true. Not saying I disagree mind you, becuase I do ALWAYS mic the amp as well. But I will say that I NEVER use an SM57 on guitar cabinets. I know everyone and their brother can make it work but I cannot seem to. Maybe I am just not good lol. I LOVE sennheiser MD421's, UHER m538's and M534's, and occasionally I will use a BETA57, but I must say I myself cannot get that amazing SM57 to sound good on anything except snare drums lol. Although you will notice that most everytime you hear of some great guitar sound coming from a single SM57, it was usually through an API preamp. My friend has an API and he can make an SM57 sound great through it, so I am inclined to believe it is the combination of the SM57 and an API pre-amp that does it. Hope this helps!
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I was looking into buying a Line6 POD for some direct recording. I am not happy in the least bit with my SM-57 pointed at my fender Bassman. Way too muddy and I just can't get it right.

Can the POD be plugged directly into my interface without an amp and still have sufficient volume? I've had issues with my BOSS Gt-6 plugging directly into my interface (M-Audio Fastrack) and having very low volume.

Also, does anyone have any experience with using a bass guitar through a POD? I don't have a bass amp, so I'd like to kill two birds with one stone, here.

I would put a pre amp between the POD and your Interface....to me it seems to give me a better sound....
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Just an FYI, but there was a recent upgrade for the PODxt Pro and the Vetta II. I upgraded my Vetta II last night. I haven't recorded it since the upgrade but everyone that has said that the direct out's are much MUCH better than before. Line 6 says they shot the convolusions through a Neve 1073 (and maybe something else)....whatever convolusions means. I'm assuming it has something to do with the direct out's.
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PODs are quite good, but I find myself boosting the 6k and up region by about 10 dB when using my POD 2.0.
Otherwise, it lacks the "shimmer" of a miked amp.
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