Need advice with a yamaha mixer

[rockabilly1955]

ok this is what i want to do...........not sure that i can with the gear i have right now though. I just got one of the new Yamaha mw10 usb mixers. I actually think its pretty decent, not much noise if any. Anyways, it comes with CubaseLe program. I am trying to record 3 instruments simultaneously and have it outputted as 3 seperate tracks, so i can edit each track individually. But it seems like when i record, all 3 instruments on my mixer get output as a 2 track stereo on the Cubase program. How can i acomplish multiple track, more than 2 instruments, simultaneous recording, and be able to edit each track individually? I dont like recording one instrument at a time because we cant seem to get any rhythm/timing that way. I also have a fostex mr8 (2 track simultaneous recording) if that helps. My comp sound card is pretty basic, it has a mic in, another similar in that green colored, and 5 inputs in the back, for i believe surround sound. I aint looking to spend a fortune either, i just do this as a little hobby. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!!

[Dr Biscuits]

Unfortunately, I believe the USB on that mixer only sends out a stereo (master) signal, so if you want to record more than 2 tracks at once, you're going to need to buy an interface that allows this, and mix in your computer (in Cubase).
Something like this http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Delta44-main.html would work for you, if you only need 4 simultanious inputs...

[rockabilly1955]

thanks, that delta 44 seems cool. How would it all be set up with my mixer? I also have magix music maker along with cubase LE. I dont know if magix allows multiple track recording??

[tbone36109]

yeah usb can only do stereo so its only two tracks(left and right)

[Dr Biscuits]

Hey rockabilly, if you need to run things through the mixer first (for example to use the mic preamps) then you'll need to route your mixer so that each instrument goes out to a separate output, and then patch that output to the Delta. Then in Cubase select the appropriate Delta channel for each track you record.
For example, you can pan your vocal mic hard right and send it to the right master out, your guitar mic panned hard left to the left master, your back-up vocalist to the aux out. Obviously, you're still limited here by the amount of separate outputs.
However, if you're recording things like direct keyboards, or using a separate preamp, you don't need to go through the mixer at all - just hook it up straight to the Delta and then in Cubase select the correct input for each track you'll be recording.
Hope this helps, good luck!

[rockabilly1955]

is there anything out there that is similar to the delta 44, but is not PCI? something i can just connect via USB or Firewire, in the same price range? because i think i am leaning towards just getting the fostex mr8HD, but dont really look forward to spending 4 bills right now. It has 4 simultaneous input recording. I have the original mr8, but its only 2 track simultaneously. I love the fact that i just transfer the wave files to pc and edit through my magix music maker.

[countrylac]

M-Audio makes the firewire 410 and it will allow you to record 4 seperate tracks at the same time. It also has midi input and output and it allows for 8 audio outputs in case you want to mix with an analog mixer. However, a new one goes for about $300 dollars. But you can find one about $70 dollars less on ebay.

Check it out here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/M-Audio-FIREWIRE...QQcmdZViewItem

[random.hero]

never used a mixer in my life... only recorders that do not require a computer...

so i buy an analog mixer w/ a suitible amount of inputs, if its a stereo mixer, what else do i need to hook up to the soundcard in my computer?
lets say the soundcard is just stock and im not looking to get great quality, but i still want separate tracks... what do i need to buy?

my guess is i'll be using Audacity as a software

[random.hero]

sorry for bargin in on this thread, but u guys know ur stuff.

[countrylac]

random.hero, how many tracks are you trying to record at the same time?
Because if it's just 2 then you could use the line input on your sound card and pan one track hard right(completely) and pan the other hard left. All you would need is a two RCA to 1 stereo 3.5mm cable. The conversion would not be all that great, but it would certainly be usable (I should know this is how I started out).

[Dr Biscuits]

Yep, and if you want to record more than 2 at the same time, you'll need to upgrade your interface (ie get something better than your onboard Soundblaster). Keep in mind also that if you're running everything through a mixer, and sending out a a stereo signal to your computer, you can't "un mix" that stereo signal... you'll need to go through a mixer with enough discrete outputs, or skip the mixer altogether if you have enough preamps or if you buy an interface with preamps built in (which, unless you have a crazy kick-ass mixer, is what I would reccommend)...

[random.hero]

lol sweet...
im excited...
thanks for the good advice...
trip the light fantastic...