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help needed:Behringer Truth Vs Samson 65a

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i am interested in buying a pair of Active monitor.
seems like both Behringer truth and samson 65a are at the same price,
I heard Behringer is supposed to be better, Can i please get your opinion?

Also not sure which is better: 6.5" or 8.5", does it depends on room size and type?

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I hate people that comment on things that they've never owned, they just feed their purist attitudes and "expertise" on others comments and claim them as their own.........That being said, I will give this advice to you as a push to see for yourself. Just do a search on Truths in these forums, you'll find the hatred of behr equipment seems to be for a reason. They break. Often even in shipment. Sonically I have heard them, they sound great. But on the other hand, Samson isn't the highest quality, but it's more reliable. "So let it be written, so let it be done!"
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I often find myself in the position of defending Behringer. Not because they make particularly awe-inspiring products, but to counter what I see is an almost hysterical antipathy towards it present in this forum.

When I go outside this forum, it seems that views are less polarised, and it's possible to make more sense of what is being said.

You have in front of you a choice of two; Behringer and Samson. Both are low budget options of Chinese manufacture, and as such, have the characteristics of that category. Sometimes there are issues with quality, and sometimes with reliability. As someone explained to me once "there's nothing much wrong with Behringer, so long as you don't take it out on the road."

There's a possibility that Samson and Behringer are made in the same factory using the same processes. I also note a similarity in product design.

See if you can have a listen to both sets, then pick the one you like best. The size of the driver can have an impact, but alone does not give much of a clue about performance. Other factors come into play as well; cabinet design, amp build and so on.
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well hearing them both is a bit difficult since each of them is located in a another City
I would think going on with the Behringer and justnot moving it from my desktop,
I think sound quality is more important.

Well you both said they both are not very high quality, do you have other recommendations? I am willing to get a good product which will server well its propuse, but i still have to remember that its a home studio, i have a budget of like 1000$ for all, and i still need a mic and preamp.
Do you think it worth buying those monitors? or that it usesless and i have to buy more expensive ones?

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To get you started, get a good pre-amp and good mic, m-audio dmp3, and one of the mxl condensors. Those both are highly rated, not just cheap, but good in the studio. Then put most of your money into monitors. KRK or Warfedale's are good. You are doing the right thing by trying to get monitors right off the bat. Too often people say, "hey, I have stereo speakers, that'll do, they sound good". I was one of those people. and I had a great recording setup in my studio before I finally got monitors, and even with great equip, the lack of monitors showed. Newbies like I was, never appreciate the importance of them. I am fully convinced that I can get a better recording out of a great set of monitors and an "ok" mic and preamp and such, than I can with a great mic and preamp and such and crappy monitors. Cause you can't tweek what you can't hear. I commend you for doing it right the first time, and suggest allocating to get better monitors. Then slowly get better other stuff. Most people think they can get all they need out of a small budget and stop. Trust me, unless you get fed up and quit, you will be forever upgrading. If you have a computer and software, $1000 is a good starting point. Oh yeah you need a sound card also, m-audio also makes a good one the audiophile 2496, don;t buy one from Best Buy.
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For soundcard i do own a M-audio audiophile 192, which i am pleased of for now at least.
I agree with you though that even now i may doubt sometimes to necesserithy of monitors, since if i cant hear it on normal stereo, no one will be able to hear the differant, isnt it like this?

Though i am still aware that i need monitors in order to do a step forward, i thought that after buying monitors, i will know what my sound worth, and will know what to improve.

What do you think about Tapco S8 8" monitors?unfortunately i think those are the top of my budget. i know that Tapco is a company made by Mackie.
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I bought used and was glad I did, might be another option to buy decent monitors.
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One thing to consider:
Often times, a larger woofer will help reproduce more low-end frequencies that would otherwise go unnoticed.
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the truths are good for the money. If you are looking at samson get the rubicon 6 active. It has a ribbon tweeter. sounds very natural. but slightly more $$ about 439.99 i believe. I was shocked when I heard them.
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I have the Samson 65a.
I like them a lot, great bang for the buck.
I have had them for 2 years. (they have a 3 year warranty)

I am ready to upgrade to something better when I get a spear grand. But until them they work for me.
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I would go with the Samson anytime.
Those Behringer are awful.
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I've heard the Tapcos, I A/B them beside some KRK's and some Truths. The Tapcos aren't good. They color the sound. They add stuff, it's not a flat response at all. I hate to say it bu tthe truths were better. But the manager of the store said that even they had got some behr's in that broke while on the shelf. I like KRK's even though I own Alesis. I'll only comment on what I've heard.
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