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Newbie question on Snare head replacement

well being i didn't have privalge to delete this duplicate thread...
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whats the deal on cheap cymbals and making them last?

any tricks of the trade to help keep them from cracking?

anyway to repair cracked ones??
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Try changing the angle of the cymbal so that the shoulder of the stick does not strike the edge of the cymbal. Then the tip of the stick will strike the body of the cymbal and they won't crack as easily.

"temporary" fixs can be drilling a small hole at the end of the cracks(works for a little bit) or cutting out the crack if its near the edge. Repairing cymbals in my experince is a waste of time!

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appreciated...

yeah there's some "smashiong going on"...so drumming tips will help.

tilt the cymbal sounds very do-able!
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Check out this:

http://www.zildjian.com/EN-US/zildji...ctechnique.ad2
http://www.paiste.com/faqs/default.p...faqid=78#faq78

A few good tips on cymbal use to keep the kiddos from breaking them.
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follow bubbagump's paiste website and look at the technique part, if you are not either coming down on the cymbla at the correct angle shown, or playing the swooping way, then try to work on your technique. I had CB stock cymbals to start out with and they dont get much worse than that, they bent a REAL lot, but never cracked.
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yeah, his cymbals are broken at the very edge.
this falls exactly into line with what I've seen...thanks.

EZ..thats funny, yeah I've spent years trying to get a "clean-distortion" on my guitar tracks for years and never got it right yet...
"clean-distortion" only a musician would understand what the hell that means!
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coolcat--

i've been working on a long reply to your snare drum tuning thread in another window for a couple days....should have it posted later today.

as for tips on keeping cheap cymbals from breaking....outside of technique, you can't.

the only way to not deal with cheap cymbals is to buy better cymbals. really, what you'll spend on regularly replacing cheap cymbals is on level with buying decent cymbals from the start--and then you won't have to deal with "why do they sound like crap" problems too.

you can't go wrong with used Zildjian A's.


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Yup, do some reading on cymbals... The expensive ones are expensive for a reason. There are different techniques used to makes cymbals, weights of cymbals, and alloys used. However, a good cymbal taken care of will last a life time. I have had some cymbals for at least 15 years and they are still going and still sound great. If you have access, find a drum pro shop in the area and grab someone who knows what they are talking about and take a tour of what is out there.
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well being i didn't have privalge to delete this duplicate thread...
more questions!

whats the deal on cheap cymbals and making them last?

any tricks of the trade to help keep them from cracking?

anyway to repair cracked ones??
When I was playing with B8's abd B8 pro's and some Paiste cymbals, if they ever cracked I would just clean the area lightly and then TIG weld the crack together, worked wonders for me, and I even sold a few on Ebay.

But only the B8 bronze cymbals are easily repaired this way, the other bronzes require pre and post heat treatment, no worth the time or money, unless you already have the equipment, then yeah it would be worth a try.

But hey cracked cymbals make good "specialty " cymbals or stackers for sure.
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