behringer eurorack mx 802a?

[ShellShock]

what do you guys think about the behringer eurorack mx 802a..I got it as a hand down from my cuzzin just to get me started...seems like krap to me, but what do you guys think?

[TheDewd]

Originally Posted by ShellShock

what do you guys think about the behringer eurorack mx 802a..I got it as a hand down from my cuzzin just to get me started...seems like krap to me, but what do you guys think?

Pretty much the lowest of the low end. But still useable and working.

[pingu]

I want your ass Dewd

[Cyanide-Depende]

free? its good for free, but thats the only way I'd take berhenger anything. They arent really worth sellign either, resell value is very low if anything.

But if it was free and to start you out, and it kinda works, id say its a good deal. Get your feet wet, save some money, and then move on to somehting better

[ShellShock]

I hate this fuckin mixer!! it doesnt do shit!! its a piece of fuckin shit..im so fuckin happy i didnt buy it though...

I mean I dont know if I just dont know how to use it or if its just so fuckin crappy I cant do nothin with it and I might as well let it go

[TheDewd]

Originally Posted by ShellShock

I hate this fuckin mixer!! it doesnt do shit!! its a piece of fuckin shit..im so fuckin happy i didnt buy it though...

I mean I dont know if I just dont know how to use it or if its just so fuckin crappy I cant do nothin with it and I might as well let it go

You should send a nice insult letter to this dude called Uli (??) Behringer and trash him good. He only deserves that.

[ShellShock]

I mean shit is it me?? do i just not know how to work a mixer?

or is this mixer that shitty that it could give anyone problems??

[TheDewd]

Behringer is the dude that does the following:

1) Encourages ASIAN labour
2) Reverse engineers and copies designs from other US manufacturers
3) Encourages people to buy low end gear rather than quality
4) Doesn't seem to understand that honor, quality, rigor and ethics are more important than business.

[Dr Biscuits]

What kind of problems are you having? I mean even a Behringer (politics aside) will combine signals and output a stereo mix
If you aren't able to do that, it's not the mixer....

[ShellShock]

I cant fuckin wait till I get my mbox 2...

this stupid shit is pissin me off...

[ShellShock]

The problem is that when I turn the volume up so I can see my levels on the mixer, it starts getting distorted and the computer reads that im in the red(i use cool edit pro 2.0). then if I turn it down you cant even see the levels on the mixer..

[Dr Biscuits]

Are you monitoring from the mixer out or the computer out when it gets distorted? It sounds like possibly there's a problem with how you're sending the mixer signal to the soundcard.

[Thunder33]

Originally Posted by Dr Biscuits

Are you monitoring from the mixer out or the computer out when it gets distorted? It sounds like possibly there's a problem with how you're sending the mixer signal to the soundcard.

yes, check the input level on your sound card

[ShellShock]

what do yall mean??

I know it sounds stupid..but im new to all this...I used to just record at my cuzzins studio, never on my own

[Thunder33]

Originally Posted by ShellShock

what do yall mean??

I know it sounds stupid..but im new to all this...I used to just record at my cuzzins studio, never on my own

don't worry about asking questions. That is what this place is for. What sound card do you use?

[ShellShock]

i think its creative sound blaster pci...thats what it says on my comp...

[Thunder33]

Originally Posted by ShellShock

i think its creative sound blaster pci...thats what it says on my comp...

okay, it has been a while since I was on that road but I believe you just need to double click the little speaker in your bottom right hand corner. Then turn your mixer up so you can hear it and get it sounding how you want from the mixer output. Then plug it into your line and and adjust the line input level until it is not distorting or if you have a meter, until it is set to be out of the red.

[ShellShock]

so imma have to use the meter on my cool edit program and not worry about the one on the mixer??

[Thunder33]

Originally Posted by ShellShock

so imma have to use the meter on my cool edit program and not worry about the one on the mixer??

no, set your levels on your mixer to get the highest level without clipping. Then do the same with the meter on your cool edit.

[ShellShock]

so basically this mixer is crap and involves hella work to get what you want??

[Dr Biscuits]

No, it's nothing to do with the mixer... you just have to set it up properly - even a $52000 console needs to be set up properly (and is a lot more work than an 8 channel behringer )...
Just try what Thunder33 said... set your levels on the mixer and then on your computer - and be sure you're going into the line in of your soundcard, not the mic in.
As far as the weak link in your signal chain, your Soundblaster soundcard is doing far more degridation than the mixer is, so upgrading that would be a first priority - you said you're grabbing an MBox2? That'll be a HUGE jump up, you'll love the sound from that over your Soundblaster.
Good luck

[Thunder33]

Originally Posted by Dr Biscuits

As far as the weak link in your signal chain, your Soundblaster soundcard is doing far more degridation than the mixer is, so upgrading that would be a first priority - you said you're grabbing an MBox2? That'll be a HUGE jump up, you'll love the sound from that over your Soundblaster.
Good luck

I didn't want to go into all of that with him yet. Shellshock, I have done some damned decent recordings with a Euromixer and the Soundblaster. Enough to learn some things. Then I upgrade to a better soundcard and it was a world of difference. Then I upgraded to a studio quality mixer and it didn't make as much of a difference soundwise. It was just more usable.

[ShellShock]

so its mainly my soundcard messin up? u think?

[Thunder33]

Originally Posted by ShellShock

so its mainly my soundcard messin up? u think?

NOTHING IS MESSING UP! You have to set levels. That would be like getting in your car and not putting gas in it but blaming the engine for not running.

[SouthSIDE Glen]

The stuff that redneck is describing is true regardles of the brand of mixer you use. Proper volumes need to be set all the way through the signal chain from your mic preamps to the input/trim controls at the top of each channel of the mixer to the faders at the bottom of each channel, to the fader's buss and main output faders, to the input levels on your sound card, to the output levels on your soundcard to the mix monitoring levels on your mixer again.

It's called "gain staging", and it's an inetgral part of any analog setup whether you have a Behringer or an SSL. Having a mixing board gives you much greater control and flexibility, but it also complicates the signal path (there's a reason for all those knobs and dials ) and the gain staging.

If you're not sure how to drive a mixer yet, and there's nothing to be ashamed of about that, everybody starting out has to learn that, then you either have some studying to do first or you need to chuck a big mixer for something simpler to use like the mbox 2 .

G.