torn between Lexicon and T.C... !

[endserenading81]

i want a good reverb unit. i play ambient, warm, serene type music.......... think sigur ros, brian eno, eluvium, enya...... etc. So, the T.C. M300.....or...... the Lexicon MX200?......... or another?
thanks,
rob

[bduersch]

Well, I've tried neither, but for guitar stuff I've used both a TC G-Major and Lexicon MPX500 & MPXG2 primarily for reverbs (with some occasional chorus/delay). Personally, I find Lexicon's reverbs to be be a bit more transparent & realistic sounding. So much so that it prompted me to get the Lexicon Pantheon plug-in to add reverb to recording projects. So I'd be inclined to recommend the Lexicon if your main interest is in reverbs.

I still dig TC's gear, though... I think their choruses, delays, pretty much everything else are better than Lexicon (at least for guitar applications).

--B

[true-eurt]

I have the Lexicon Omega and I love the Patheon sound effect rooms...

I don't know about the other Lexi or the M300.

[endserenading81]

i get the impression that lexicon's reverb is kinda famous......... maybe the wrong word but....... ya know, renound or something. yeah, i want the reverbs to sound like you really are in an environment, to create atmospheres....... realistic? thanks so far.

[Big Kenny]

Kurzweil Rumour

[endserenading81]

i'd like to stay under $300. sorry i didn't mention that.

[Middleman]

I have both. If I could only have one, it would be the TC.

[endserenading81]

why do you choose the T.C.?

[Middleman]

More useful across instruments and vocals. Richer sound. The Lexicon is much brighter and works for some things but the TC gets more use.

[Gnash5150]

I Love myTC M One XL! It's $399, but it has more routing, and effect variations than all the others that I have tried. Worth the extra hun, in my opinion!

[Gnash5150]

Oh, I guess I use the Lexicon Pantheon Reverb plug-in way too much! Definately, check that one out!

[endserenading81]

yeah i'm pretty much gonna use the reverb for anything that comes across, guitars, purcussion, vocals, found sounds. i just want to make sure that the reverb quality isn't comprimised for having other effects, like most units out there.
thanks so much. do you use these units to record direct, or for post mixing?

[WhatdoIknow]

Well, I've had the Lex MX200 for just a week...And I've only used it on live vocals so far, with nothing laid down....That said:

I must say it sounds much better than what you might find built into any rackable live board...And it is extremely easy to use in a live environment, and that it will remain in my rack directly beneath my mixer for live applications....

For live vocals, you patch it in one time and afterwards when you need to reroute thru any of it's 4 possible paths, you only push one button....The two separate effects processors are identifed by red or green leds, so adjusting them is also a relfex-like action via up/down rocker switches....I love it!..It is the best 200 bucks I have spent in a long time on MI gear.

But seeing as how this is a "recording" board and I came here hoping to learn recording, and as how I haven't used it yet as such, then disregard the above.

P.S.....If the guy from Lexicon returns to the board, please ask him why they failed to place an on/off switch ANYWHERE on the unit....to turn it on/off, you gotta plug/unplug it....

[chizzy]

I love the lex 200. Very clean, and the preview function is great. (it's got guitar, voice & drum samples loaded in, and you hit the button to play it through current settings...)

[Richard Monroe]

I've used both, and prefer the M300, primarily fo its ability to bypass the effects and use it as a standalone 2 channel A-D/D-A convertor. I also find it a simpler unit to set up and use.-Richie

[cortexx]

I play and record exactly the same type of music as you and I use a Lexicon MX200 and a Behringer virtualizer Pro 1024P for my effects.

The Lex is the better of the 2 and does a great job of spatializing long ambient pads .

At the moment i`m producing the music score for a video game that is in developement and I use the Lex almost exclusively for that.

[mixsit]

Get both. Send one back.

Wayne

[true-eurt]

Originally Posted by WhatdoIknow

Well, I've had the Lex MX200 for just a week...And I've only used it on live vocals so far, with nothing laid down....That said:

I must say it sounds much better than what you might find built into any rackable live board...And it is extremely easy to use in a live environment, and that it will remain in my rack directly beneath my mixer for live applications....

For live vocals, you patch it in one time and afterwards when you need to reroute thru any of it's 4 possible paths, you only push one button....The two separate effects processors are identifed by red or green leds, so adjusting them is also a relfex-like action via up/down rocker switches....I love it!..It is the best 200 bucks I have spent in a long time on MI gear.

But seeing as how this is a "recording" board and I came here hoping to learn recording, and as how I haven't used it yet as such, then disregard the above.

P.S.....If the guy from Lexicon returns to the board, please ask him why they failed to place an on/off switch ANYWHERE on the unit....to turn it on/off, you gotta plug/unplug it....

I am not the Guy from Lexicon, but I know it is a pain in the rear...I don't know why they didn't do it. One of those brain freeze moments on their part?

[Gnash5150]

I only record keys, and drum machines direct. I record 99% of everthing, DRY, with NO reverb, adding the Lexicon Pantheon Reverb during mixdown. Once it's on the track, you CANNOT change it. You can really dial in an effect within the mix. The TC M one XL has great reverb, it does have some "Toy" effects, but you have alot of options with it. Use reverb in mixdown my friend!

[mixsit]

Originally Posted by Gnash5150

... I record 99% of everthing, DRY, with NO reverb, adding the Lexicon Pantheon Reverb during mixdown. Once it's on the track, you CANNOT change it.

Puzzled here. When can you not change it? Do you mean once the two track mix is printed?
Wayne

[endserenading81]

....man, what were those guys at lexicon thinking? ........... doesn't that do some small damage to the unit, constantly plugging and unplugging it?

[boingoman]

Originally Posted by endserenading81

....man, what were those guys at lexicon thinking? ........... doesn't that do some small damage to the unit, constantly plugging and unplugging it?

No more than flipping the switch does.

[Gnash5150]

Originally Posted by mixsit

Puzzled here. When can you not change it? Do you mean once the two track mix is printed?
Wayne

Oh, when the effect is recorded with the signal. I like to audition the effect on a dry track. You Know what I'm talking about, Wayne. I have a friend, who cannot play his electric without the reverb knob on 10. I will give him tons of verb his headphones, but record the guitar dry. We add the reverb later. Or NOT!

[James HE]

Originally Posted by Richard Monroe

I've used both, and prefer the M300, primarily fo its ability to bypass the effects and use it as a standalone 2 channel A-D/D-A convertor. I also find it a simpler unit to set up and use.-Richie

The MX200 can also be used as a standalone ADA converter. If you put it in "dry track" mode you can send a dry signal out the SPDIF, and send an effected signal from the analog outs. Great for getting a little verb in the phones or monitors while recording a dry track. (or just using the ad)

I have the MX200. I'm not really impressed. I don't like the plates, which is a shame. The chamber verbs are cool, they have an intresting vibe. Some of the effects are neat. The audition feature is fun. I got mine for $150, so that pulled me toward the lex over the TC.

[James HE]

And oh yeah, there's really no problem not having a switch on the unit. A few of my boxes are switchless. A rack power conditioner is good to have. I just have everything on a master switch. Any power strip would work.